The Trinity Is An Idolatrous False Teaching

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What is the trinity?

The trinity teaches that God is made up of three equal persons.

Trinity- a group of three; triad...the state of being threefold or triple.

Quotes

"The doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons ....the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit.

"The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" meaning "three are one." The Trinity expresses the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal, co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."

"three separate and distinct persons that are called God"

"According to the Trinity, there are three separate "persons" in one divine "substance." These separate persons are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The belief of the Trinity is a paradox * the Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit is God; yet, there are not three Gods, but one. In fact, the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. "

Wrong: God is not made up of three persons, but God is only ONE person, which is the Father.

The Father Alone Is God

We have only ONE God and the Father is that ONE God

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.}Malachi 2:10- Have we not all ONE FATHER? hath not ONE GOD created us?....
^{Rev 4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne.

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

Mark 10:18- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Luke 10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Matt 11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Psalm 86:10- For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.}John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...

The Father Is The God Of Jesus

The apostle Paul taught that the Father is the God of the Lord Jesus Christ:

Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Col 1:3- We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,..

2Cor 1:3- Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and THE GOD of all comfort;...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

The apostle Peter taught that the Father is the God of the Lord Jesus Christ:

1Pet 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

The Lord Jesus declared that the Father is his God:

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER; and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD.

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

^{The Father Created Jesus}

^{John 1:14- and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN of the Father,..

John 1:18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only BEGOTTEN Son, which is in the bosom of the Father,...

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN Son,...

1John 4:9- God sent his only BEGOTTEN Son into the world,....}

^{The Father, who is the Holy Spirit, created Jesus in Mary's womb.}

^{Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

Luke 1:34-35- Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, the Holy Spirit (the Father) shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Christ was on this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit (the Father).

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit (the Father).}

^{Jesus came forth from the Father}

^{John 16:27- I came out FROM GOD.

John 16:28- I came forth FROM THE FATHER,..

John 13:3- Jesus knowing that the Father had GIVEN all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;...

John 16:30- we believe that thou camest forth from God.}

^{Jesus did not exist before the world was but he was FOREORDAINED to be the Christ before the world was.}

^{1Pet 1:19-20- but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily WAS FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, but was manifest in these last times for you.}

^{Jesus is the Son Of God}

^{Jesus never claimed to be God, but he told people that he was the Son of God.}

^{The apostles and Martha did not believe that Jesus was God.}

^{The apostles and Martha believed that Jesus was the Son Of God.}

^{Matt 16:15-16- He (Jesus) saith unto them (the apostles), But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

John 6:67-69- Then said Jesus unto the twelve (apostles), will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ the Son of the living God.

John 11:27- She(Martha) unto him(Jesus), yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.}

^{John the baptist told people that Jesus was the Son of God:}

^{John 1:34- And I saw, and bare record that this is THE SON OF GOD.}

^{The Apostle Paul taught that Jesus was the Son of God:}

^{Acts 9:20- And straightway he (Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the SON OF GOD.}

^{Mary gave birth to the Son of God and not "God the Son."}

^{Luke 1:32- He shall be great, and shall be called THE SON of the Highest:...

Luke 1:35- that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called THE SON OF GOD.}

^{We do not have to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.}

^{The Bible teaches that we have to believe that Jesus is the SON OF GOD to be saved:}

^{1John 4:15- Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1John 5:5- Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the SON OF GOD?

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF GOD.}

^{The trinitarians teach that the title "Son of God" means that Jesus is God, which is not true.}

^{Trinitarian quotes}

^{"the title "Son of God" refers to Jesus' Deity"

"When the Bible says that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, it means that Jesus is equal to God"

"The term Son of God means that Jesus was God."

"The title Son of God means Jesus is God"}

^{The title "Son of God" does not mean that Jesus is God.}

^{"Son of God" means that Jesus is the offspring of God.}

^{The Title "Son Of God" Is Not A Title Of Deity

Quotes

"claiming to be the Son of God does not constitute claiming to be God."

"Did Jesus say that he was God the Son or Son of God? Well, the answer to that is, Son of God."

"Jesus Is the Son of God. Jesus is not God Himself nor part of a triune God because He is the Son of God. He cannot be both God and the Son of God. The Father and the Son are neither equal nor identical. The Father lived before the Son. The Son received His life from the Father. The Father is greater than the Son. Jesus was begotten of His Father and born of Mary. He is the Son of the living God. The New Testament abounds with scriptures stating that Jesus is the Son of God."

"To believe, Jesus is God, because he is The Son of God; to extend him to the position of God, because he is the Son of God, is totally of human reasoning, that is ignorant, and according to man's reasoning and not from God's Word."}

^{JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD ONLY}

^{The Trinitarians teach that Jesus is both God and the Son of God, which is ridiculous.}

^{Jesus would be two persons if that scenario were true....the God Jesus and the Son of God Jesus.}

^{Trinitarian quotes}

^{"Jesus is God as well as the Son of God."

"Christ is truly God, and he is ALSO the Son of God"

"Jesus Christ is both God and the Son of God"

"Jesus is God the Son. Jesus is the Son of God"

"Ultimately, which is it? Is Christ God the Son or the Son of God? The answer is both."

"Thus the ultimate question must be asked again: Is Jesus God the Son or the Son of God?" The answer is undoubtedly both." "Jesus is both - God and the Son of God."

"Christ is God and he is also the son of God"}

^{WRONG- Jesus is not both God and the Son of God, but he is the Son of God only.}

^{We do not have two Jesus'...the God Jesus and the Son of God Jesus.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and the ONE Jesus is the Son of God.

John 10:36- say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD.

1John 4:15- Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1John 5:5- Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the SON OF GOD?

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF GOD.

Luke 1:35- that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called THE SON OF GOD.

John 1:34- And I saw, and bare record that this is THE SON OF GOD.

Acts 9:20- And straightway he (Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the SON OF GOD.

Mark 1:1- The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the SON OF GOD.}

^{Jesus Was Worshipped as the Son of God}

^{When
people worshipped Jesus, they were worshipping him as the Son of God
and not as God.}

^{Matt
14:33- Then they (the apostles) that were in the ship came and
WORSHIPPED him, saying, of a truth thou art THE SON OF GOD.

John
9:35-38- Dost thou believe on THE SON OF GOD? He answered and said,
who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? And Jesus said unto
him, hou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And
he said, Lord, I believe. And he WORSHIPPED him.}

^{One
of the main points of confusion about Jesus is that he was worshipped
and people seem to think that makes him God.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"Many people bowed and worshiped Jesus. This also
proves that Jesus was God."

"Jesus was in fact God!
Only God can be bowed to and worshipped"

"Jesus
accepted the worship, because he is almighty God"

"Jesus
allowed himself to be worshipped as God"

The trinitarians are wrong. Jesus did not allow himself to be worshipped
as God.}

^{When
people worshipped Jesus, they were worshipping him as the Son of God
and not as God.}

^{Worshipping
Jesus as the SON OF GOD is not the same thing as worshipping Jesus as
God.}

^{Jesus
never claimed to be God, but he told people that he was the Son of
God.}

^{JESUS
WAS GIVEN THE POWER TO FORGIVE SINS}

^{Another point of confusion
about Jesus is that he forgave sins and people think that makes him
God.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"Jesus Christ is God, because only God can forgive
sins"

"Jesus forgave people for their sins, which
were against God; therefore, Jesus must be God"

"Jesus
forgave sins, which only God can do"

"Jesus also
forgave sins, again something reserved for God"

WRONG
Jesus is not God because he had the power to forgive sins while on
earth.}

^{The
power that Jesus had to forgive sins and heal people was given to him
by the Father:}

^{Matthew
9:2-8- And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy,
lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of
the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. And,
behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man
blasphemeth. And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think
ye evil in your hearts? For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be
forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? But that ye may know that
the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to
the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine
house. And he arose, and departed to his house. But when the
multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified GOD (the Father),
WHICH HAD GIVEN SUCH POWER unto men.

Matt 28:18- All power is
GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 17:1-2- Father, the
hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as
thou hast GIVEN HIM POWER over all flesh,...

John 3:35- THE
FATHER loveth the son, and hath GIVEN all things into his hand.

John
14:10- THE FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Acts
2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of nazareth, A MAN
approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, WHICH
GOD (the Father) DID by him in the midst of you,....

John
5:19- Verily, verily, I say unto you, the son can do nothing of
himself,..

John 5:30- I can of mine own self do
nothing:...

The fact that Jesus had to be given power
to forgive sins and to perform miracles shows that he cannot be
God.

God is all-powerful and does not need to be given power.}

^{The Father Is Greater Than All}

^{Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,...

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

Isaiah 40:25- To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.

Isaiah 46:5- To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?

1Cor 3:23- Christ belongs to God.

1Cor 11:3- the head of Christ is God.}

^{There is no God beside the Father. He alone is the Almighty.}

^{Isa 43:10- I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shalt there be after me.

Isa 44:6- beside me there is no God.

Isa 44:8- Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 45:5- I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me.

Isa 45:21- there is no God else beside me.

Deut 4:35- Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

Deut 4:39- Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Deut 32:39- See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:..

I Sam 2:2- There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

I Kings 8:60- That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

I Chron 17:20- O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.}

^{The trinity denies the Father of his rightful title of God alone.}

^{Isa 48:11- For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY UNTO ANOTHER.

Isa 42:8- I am the Lord: that is my name: and MY GLORY WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER,...}

^{Jesus said that the Father is Lord of heaven and earth.}

^{Luke 10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Matt 11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...}

^{The Father is a great compassionate loving God, but He is also a jealous God who demands that we worship only Him as God.}

^{It is vitally important to our eternal destiny to know that Jesus is not God, because it is idolatry to worship anyone but the Father as God.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"If he (Jesus) is not God, and we give him the same kind of glory that only God is worthy of, then we have worshipped someone other than God, and that is idolatry or polytheism."

"If we are worshipping a false Christ, we are committing idolatry. We are also violating the foundation of God's commands. The very first commandment God spelled out is, "Thou shall not have any other gods before me". If we create, or follow a god created that does not represent God as He has revealed Himself through scriptures, we do not have faith, but a counterfeit religion."

"Those of us who find we are led to believe in His deity, if we are wrong, then we must acknowledge that we have sinned the sin of idolatry -thinking God other than He is. This is simply not acceptable in the court of God for He has said somewhere, You shall have no other gods before me, and elsewhere, I am a jealous God."

"Are you really worshipping God? If Jesus is not God, are you not committing idolatry by making Jesus " God the Son?" Yes you are!"}

^{The cost of idolatry is high (eternity in hell), so we better make sure about what we believe.}

^{Rev 21:8- Idolaters shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:..

1Cor 6:9-10- Idolaters shall not inherit the kingdom of God.}

^{I know that it has been taught for a very long time that Jesus is "God the Son, " but that is irrelevant.

It matters not in the least how popular a teaching is if it is contrary to the word of God.}

^{What is relevant is true doctrine and that is what we should cleave to regardless of how unpopular it might be.

Quotes

"To say Jesus Christ is God the Son is idolatry. To say Jesus is the Son of God is truth."

"Endeavoring to make Jesus God does not add to the glory of God at all, but manufactures a second god set over against the true God who said, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." In essence, we have idolatry and humiliate the true God and degrade the greatness of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."}

^{The trinitarians teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to be saved, which is a false teaching.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"if you deny that Jesus Christ is God, you are not a christian"

"If you do not believe that Jesus is God than you cannot be saved!"

"If you do not believe that Jesus Christ is God, then you are lost and will be cast into hell."

"To be saved, one must believe that Jesus Christ is God."

"When one denies the Trinity or the deity of Christ one ceases to be christian."

"You cannot be a believer and deny the deity of the Lord Jesus."

WRONG: The Bible does not teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.

The Bible teaches that we have to believe that Jesus is the SON OF GOD to be saved:}

^{The Father is the only true God!}

^{The trinitarians may believe that Jesus is God, but Jesus believed and declared that the Father alone is God.}

^{John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{Jesus also said that the Father is his God, which utterly refutes the teaching that Jesus is God.}

^{John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.}

^{How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus can be God since the Father is his God?}

^{Well, the trinitarians claim that Jesus has 2 natures (God-man) and that the Father is the God of the "man" nature.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus is both God and man. Here he speaks in reference to His human nature. As a man the Father is His God"

"It is thus in His humanity that Christ acknowledges the Father as "my God"}

^{So, according to the trinitarians, Jesus is God but also has a God. That is crazy theology!}

^{Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that was God and another part that had a God. One person cannot both be God and have a God.}

^{Also, where does it say in John 20:17 that Jesus has 2 natures (God-man) and that the Father is the God of his human nature only?}

^{When Jesus said that the Father is his God, he was talking about all of him and not just part of him.}

^{John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER; and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD.}

^{The trinitarians have split Jesus into two persons.....the Jesus who is God and the Jesus who has God.}

^{The bible does not teach that the Father is the God of only part of Jesus.}

^{The bible teaches that there is only ONE Jesus and that the Father is the God of that ONE Jesus.}

^{1Pet 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...}

^{The Father is a God of truth}

^{Deut 32:4- He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Ps 31:5- Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.

Isa 65:16- That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.}

^{We must worship the Father IN TRUTH to be true worshippers of the Father:}

^{John 4:23-24- But the hour cometh, and now is, when the TRUE WORSHIPPERS shall worship the Father in spirit and IN TRUTH: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him MUST WORSHIP HIM in spirit and IN TRUTH.

1Sam 12:24- Only fear the Lord, and serve him IN TRUTH with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you.

Joshua 24:14- Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and IN TRUTH: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.

Ps 145:18- The Lord is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him IN TRUTH.

To worship the Father as the first person of a Trinity is not worshipping the Father in truth.}

^{The way of truth}

^{2pet 2:2- And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

Ps 119:30- I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.

The Love Of The Truth}

^{Prov 23:23- Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

1John 2:21- no lie is of the truth

2Cor 13:8- For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

John 8:32- the truth shall make you free.

We should have such an overwhelming love of the truth that we will refuse to accept any false teachings.

The Will Of The Father}

^{We do not have to do the will of a triune God to enter into the Kingdom of God, but Jesus said that we have to do the will of the Father to enter into the Kingdom of heaven.}

^{Matt 7:21- Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Jesus taught that we have only to do the will of the Father to be his family.}

^{Matt 12:50- For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.}

^{Jesus came to do the will of the Father and not the will of a trinity.}

^{John 5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 6:38- I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 4:34- My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.}

^{The Kingdom of God is the Father's Kingdom}

^{Matt 26:29- But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's Kingdom.

Luke 11:2- And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Matt 6:9-10- Our Father which art in heaven,....Thy will be done....}

^{The Father Alone Is Our Creator}

^{The Father made Jesus ruler over his creation:}

^{Ps 8:6- You (the Father) made him (Jesus) ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:..

1Cor 8:6- `Yet there is for us only one God, THE FATHER, who is THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS and for whom we live.

Isa 44:24- I (the Father) am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that speadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF.}

^{Jesus was GIVEN all things by the Father}

^{The Father has put all things (except himself) under Christ:}

^{1Cor 15:27-28- For he (the Father) "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this DOES NOT INCLUDE GOD (the Father) HIMSELF, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made SUBJECT to him (the Father) who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

John 3:35- The Father loveth the Son, and hath GIVEN all things into his hand.

Phil 2:9-11- Wherefore God (the Father) also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN HIM A NAME which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God THE FATHER.

John 13:3- Jesus knowing that the Father had GIVEN all things into his hands,...

John 5:26-27- For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he GIVEN to the son to have life in himself; and hath GIVEN him authority to execute judgment also,...

Luke 1:32- He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall GIVE unto him the throne of his father David:...

Matt 11:27- All things are delivered unto me of my Father:...

Luke 10:22- All things are delivered to me of my Father:...

Eph 1:22- (the Father) hath put all things under his feet,....

Heb 2:8- Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.

John 17:7- Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me ARE OF THEE.}

^{Jesus was given power by the Father:}

^{John 5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing...

John 5:19- Verily, verily, I say unto you, the son can do nothing of himself,...

John 8:28- I do nothing of myself;...

John 17:1-2- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, FATHER, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy son also may glorify thee: as thou hast GIVEN HIM POWER over all flesh,...

Matt 28:18- ALL POWER IS GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 14:10- the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.}

^{The Father gave Jesus his great name:}

^{Phil 2:9-11- Wherefore God (the Father) also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN HIM A NAME which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God THE FATHER.}

^{Jesus is not equal with the Father:}

^{The Father is greater than all:}

^{Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,...

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...}

^{It is only THE FATHER who is all-knowing:}

^{Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but THE FATHER.

Matt 24:35-36- Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

1John 3:20- God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.}

^{Quote

"Jesus says his Father is greater than he is unequivocally, and that his Father is greater than ALL. Statements like these need heavy qualifications by Trinitarians in order to get around a plain and obvious reading of the text. The trinity is pure eisegesis and requires reading all Jesus statements through a tainted Trinitarian false premise because if they don't, and simply read these verses as they are, then clearly there is no trinity and Jesus is not God. Jesus doesn't qualify any of these statements the way Trinitarians want them to be by saying "I say these things in my human nature but they are untrue for my divine nature."}

^{The Father's Doctrine}

^{The Father gave Jesus the words to speak unto people:}

^{John 7:16-17- My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 14:24- the word which ye hear is not mine, but THE FATHER'S which sent me.

John 14:10- the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but THE FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 15:15- for all things that I have heard of MY FATHER I have made known unto you.

John 17:8- For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;...

John 3:34- For he whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of God:...

John 12:49- For I have not spoken of myself; but THE FATHER which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Deut 18:18- I (the Father) will raise them up a prophet (Jesus) from among their brethren like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.}

^{The Father alone raised up Jesus from the dead}

^{Jesus was not raised from the dead by a trinity of persons, but the Father alone raised Jesus from the dead:}

^{Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and GOD THE FATHER, who raised him from the dead;)...

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of THE FATHER.}

^{The Father is the God of Jesus and he alone raised him from the dead:}

^{Eph 1:17-20- That THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he (the Father) wrought in Christ, when he (the Father) RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,...

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the dead by THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.}

^{Jesus Is At The Right Hand Of God}

^{Jesus does not sit on the throne of God, but he sits on the right hand of God the Father.}

^{Mark 16:19- Jesus was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Luke 22:69- Hearafter shall the son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Acts 7:55- But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God.

Col 3:1- Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Heb 12:2- Jesus is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Heb 1:3- when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high;..

Acts 2:33- Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having RECEIVED OF THE FATHER the promise of the Holy Ghost, ....

Heb 8:1- We have such an High priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens.

Heb 10:12- But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God.}

^{The Father raised Jesus from the dead and set him at his own right hand.}

^{Eph 1:20- Which he (the Father) wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and SET HIM AT HIS OWN RIGHT HAND in the heavenly places,...}

^{Only ONE sits upon the throne and that ONE is the Father.}

^{Rev 4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..}

^{Jesus took the book out of the hand of the ONE God that sat upon the throne:}

^{Rev 5:7- And he (Jesus) came and took the book out of the right hand of him(the Father) that sat upon the throne.}

^{The Father alone is Alpha & Omega}

^{The Alpha and the Omega sits upon the throne:}

^{Rev 21:5-6- And HE THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE said, behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, It is done. I am ALPHA AND OMEGA, the beginning and the end.}

^{For Jesus to be the Alpha & Omega, he would have to sit upon the throne of God.}

^{Jesus does not sit on the throne of God, but he sits at the right hand of the throne of God:}

^{Heb 12:2- Jesus is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Heb 8:1- We have such an High priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens.

Heb 10:12- But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God.

Rev 5:7- And he (Jesus) came and took the book out of the right hand of him(the Father) that sat upon the throne.}

^{The Mediator

Jesus is not the mediator between men and a trinity, but Jesus is the mediator between men and THE FATHER.}

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

John 14:6- I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto THE FATHER, but by me.

Eph 2:18- For through Christ we both have access by one spirit unto THE FATHER.

The fact that Jesus is the mediator between men and the Father alone, shows that God is not a trinity.}

^{If God were a trinity of persons, then Jesus would be the mediator between men and a trinity of persons and not just the Father.

Jesus is the way unto the Father alone because the Father alone is the ONE God:}

^{John 14:6- I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto THE FATHER, but by me.

Eph 2:18- For through Christ we both have access by one spirit unto THE FATHER.

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE GOD, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE GOD and Father of all, who is above all,..

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus is equal to the Father}

^{Trinitarian quotes}

^{"The bible teaches that Jesus Christ is equal to the Father"

"The bible plainy teaches that Jesus is equal to God the Father"

"We believe that Jesus is co-equal with God the Father"

"Jesus claimed to be equal to the Father"

"Jesus taught that he was equal with the Father"}

^{WRONG: Jesus did not teach that he was equal with the Father, but he taught that the Father was greater than he.}

^{John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

Jesus clearly taught that he is not equal with the Father, yet the trinitarians teach that Jesus is equal with the Father. How do the trinitarians explain this contradiction?}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus has two natures (God-man) and that the Father is greater than just his "human" nature.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"John 14: 28 In reference to Jesus' human nature, God the father was greater than he."

"The Father is greater than Jesus' human nature."

"The Father is "greater" than the incarnate Christ because Christ's humanity is a creation, though in His divinity, He is equal to the Father."

"He is equal to the Father in His divinity but he is inferior to the Father in His humanity."}

^{Can you believe that? The trinitarians teach that Jesus is both equal and not equal to the Father at the same time}

^{.

The trinitarians have split Jesus into two persons....the Jesus who is equal to the Father and the Jesus who is not equal to the Father.}

^{Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that was equal with the Father and another part that was not equal with the Father. One person cannot be both equal and not equal to the Father.}

^{Where in the new testament does it teach that only part of Jesus is not equal with the Father?}

^{How many Jesus' do we have?}

^{Jesus didn't say that the Father is greater than just part of him.}

^{Jesus said that "my Father is greater than I" and not "my Father is greater than just my human part."}

^{John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

Jesus is only ONE person and the Father is greater than that ONE person. There is absolutely no scriptural evidence that Jesus had two parts and that the Father is greater than just one of the parts.}

^{We do not have two Jesus'....the Jesus who is equal to the Father and the Jesus who is not equal to the Father.}

^{We have only one Jesus...the Jesus who declared that the Father is greater than he.}

^{GOD CANNOT DIE}

^{Jesus died which disqualifies him from being God.}

^{God is immortal and cannot die:}

^{1Tim 1:17- Now unto the king eternal, IMMORTAL, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.}

^{How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus could be God but didn't die as God on the cross?}

^{The trinitarians teach that it was only the "man" part of Jesus that died.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But we see that Jesus has two natures, not one. It was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."

"Jesus had two natures, one divine and one human....God cannot die, so as God Jesus did not die. However, man can die and as a man Jesus died."

"He died as the God-man, but his godness did not die"

"The death of Christ was only his human nature"

"the divine part of Jesus did not die, as God does not die"

"The human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."

"In the sacrifice of Jesus, we have Jesus dying. But, did the divine nature of Christ also die? No it did not since God cannot die."

"Jesus had two natures, one divine and one human....God cannot die, so as God Jesus did not die. However, man can die and as A MAN Jesus died."

"As Jesus hung on the cross He was, in His human nature, the true sin-offering for His people, and as such, it was necessary that He suffer alone. God can have no association whatever with sin,"

"He did not die according to his divine nature, but according to his human nature."

"Christ suffered and died in his human nature"

WRONG- Jesus did not have two parts and only part of him died on the cross.}

^{There is only ONE Jesus and all of him died on the cross that day at Calvary.}

^{We do not have two Jesus'...the Jesus who died on the cross and the Jesus who didn't die on the cross.}

^{When Jesus died, all of him died, which means that there is no way that Jesus could be God.}

^{If Jesus were God then God died on the cross, which is not possible. God is immortal and cannot die.}

^{1Tim 1:17- Now unto the king eternal, IMMORTAL, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Also, how can Jesus both die and not die? Jesus would be two persons if that scenario were true. One person cannot both be dead and alive at the same time.}

^{Here is a quote from a trinitarian who is honest enough to admit that Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that died and another part that didn't die.}

^{Trinitarian quote

"But here's the tough one for me. Jesus was executed on a roman cross and died. Does that mean that God died? Even the question feels blasphemous. Did God die?....Did God die on two pieces of wood, with nails through his hands and feet? Logic offers a ready answer. Jesus is God. Jesus died on the cross. Therefore, God died on the cross. Simple syllogism. But I don't know that can subject the scriptures to that sort of analysis?not when we are dealing with something like the Incarnation.....We could approach it differently. God didn't die on the cross. Rather it was the human nature that God had robed Himself in. The man died but not the God. But I find this wholly unsatisfactory. It seems to be a denial of the Incarnation? It splits the human and divine natures such that Jesus can no longer be considered one person."

The trinitarians have only two positions to take and both positions are untenable---either they say that only the "man" part of jesus died which splits Jesus into two persons or they say that god died which is heretical.}

^{Both of those positions make no sense}

^{The biblical teaching that Jesus was a man only is the only position that makes sense.}

^{Jesus was a man only and all of him died on the cross. Now that makes perfect sense.}

^{The Bible teaches that Jesus was A MAN only:}

^{Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

John 8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the truth,...

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

John 15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN did,....

Acts 17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Acts 17:31- Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;....

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....}

^{Jesus atoned for our sins as a MAN only:}

^{Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

It was a MAN who died on the cross for our sins:}

^{Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

It was the MAN christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all:}

^{1Tim 2:5-6-For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

By a man (adam) came death and by a MAN (Jesus) came the atonement:}

^{Rom 5:11-15- we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received THE ATONEMENT. Wherefore, as by one man (adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin;........For if through the offence of one (adam) many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one MAN, Jesus Christ,...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man (adam) came death, by MAN (Jesus) came also the resurrection of the dead.}

^{God cannot be tempted}

^{James 1:13- God cannot be tempted with evil.}

^{Jesus was tempted:}

^{Heb 4:15- For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Mark 1:13- And he(Jesus) was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of satan;...

Luke 4:1-2- And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the spirit into the wilderness, being forty days tempted of the devil.}

^{Jesus was tempted, which means that he cannot be God.}

^{The Trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 natures (God-man) and that it was only his "man" part that was tempted.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"He was tempted as a man, in his human nature. Not as God. God cannot be tempted."

"As a man, He was tempted"

"Jesus was tempted in His human nature, not in His divine"

"But Jesus Christ, in his humanity, was tempted. God is not tempted."

"Jesus was able to be tempted in His human nature but not in His divine. In the one person of Christ, there dwells two natures: God and man.......As man, He could be tempted."}

^{The trinitarians are wrong. We do not have two Jesus'....the Jesus who was tempted and the Jesus who wasn't tempted.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and all of him was tempted.}

^{Heb 4:15- For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

James 1:13- God cannot be tempted with evil.

Quotes

"to say that He was only tempted in His human nature tends to split Christ into two people, where one activity is going on in one of Christ's natures, and not in the other"

"we cannot divide Jesus up by saying that in His human nature He could have sinned, but in His divine nature He could not have sinned. One half of Jesus could not have sinned, while the other half did not."

"Christ is not two people-a man who could sin and God who could not."

"The Bible never says that Jesus' "human nature" was tempted, it says "Jesus" was tempted. Nowhere does it say that "part" of Jesus was tempted; it was "all" of him. If Jesus is God, this is a clear contradiction. Fortunately, Jesus is the human Son of God, so there is no contradiction."

THE TWISTING OF JOHN 8:24}

^{John 8:24- if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

The trinitarians claim that John 8:24 teaches that unless we believe that Jesus is God we will die in our sins.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"We must believe that Jesus is God, or we will die in our sins."

"If you don't believe that Jesus is God, you'll die in your sins."

"Jesus said that if we do not believe that he is God, then we will die in our sins."

"Jesus says that we must believe that he is God before we can be saved from our sins."

"Jesus said in John 8:24 `I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins. "Jesus said unless we believe that he is Jehovah God in the flesh, we cannot be saved."}

^{Do not believe the trinitarians for a second, because Jesus said that we have to believe that he is God.}

^{Jesus was saying in John 8:24 that we have to believe that he is the "Christ" to be saved, which lines up perfectly with other scripture verses that state the very same thing.}

^{The Bible teaches that we have to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God to be saved:}

^{1John 5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:..

1John 4:15- Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

It is a misrepresentation of the Lord Jesus to teach that he said that we have to believe that he is God or we will die in our sins.}

^{We will die in our sins if we deny that Jesus is the CHRIST and not if we deny that Jesus is God.}

^{1John 2:22-23- Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is THE CHRIST? He is anti-christ, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...}

^{The "he" of John 8:24 does not refer to Jesus being God, but "he" refers to Jesus being the Christ.}

^{The trinitarians have twisted "If ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins" into "If ye believe not that I am God, ye shall die in your sins."}

^{The "HE" in John 4:25-26 refers to Jesus being the Christ, which is what the "HE" in John 8:24 is also referring to.}

^{John 8:24- if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.

John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee AM HE.}

^{Jesus did not tell people that he was God, but he told people that he was the "Christ, the Son of God"}

^{Mark 14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said unto him, art thou the Christ, the son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I am:..

John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee AM HE.

John 10:36- Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD.}

^{Martha did not believe that Jesus was God, but she believed that he was the CHRIST, the Son of God:}

^{John 11:27- She(Martha) unto him(Jesus), yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the CHRIST, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

Peter and the other apostles did not believe that Jesus was God.}

^{They believed that Jesus was THE CHRIST, the Son of God.}

^{Jesus asked the apostles, "whom say ye that I am?" and here is their answer to him:}

^{Matt 16:15-16- He (Jesus) saith unto them (the apostles), But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, thou art THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

John 6:67-69- Then said Jesus unto the twelve (apostles), will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

Mark 8:29- And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.

Luke 9:20- But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, THE CHRIST of God.

Have You Accepted "Another" Jesus?}

^{2Cor 11:3-4- But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER (false) JESUS, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

The "God-man" Jesus taught by the trinitarians is not the Jesus that the apostle paul taught.}

^{Paul did not preach that Jesus was a "God-man," but he preached that the Father was the ONE God:}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,....

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

The Father is the ONE God and he is the God of Jesus.

Paul preached that the Father is the God of Jesus.}

^{Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:...

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...}

^{Jesus, himself, said that the Father is his God.}

^{The Jesus of the Bible is the only begotten (created) Son of God and not God.}

^{John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son,...

Mark 1:1- The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the son of God.

1John 4:9- God sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.

John 1:34- And I saw, and bare record that this is the son of God.

Luke 1:35- the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the son of God.}

^{Jesus told people that he was the Son of God.}

^{Quotes

"There is no issue in the Bible of greater importance than the identity of the one who died for us to be our Savior -- Jesus Christ. We must therefore be sure that we are accepting Jesus for who He really is, because if we are not, we are following a false Christ (2 Cor. 11:4,13)."

"Paul warns Christians concerning false apostles who preach about a Jesus who is not the real Jesus of the Bible. It's in the Bible, 2 Corinthians 11:3 & 4 NIV. "Just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough."

"The love of the truth begins with love for the biblical Jesus Christ. If one cannot love the biblical Jesus it is impossible to love the truth."}

^{CAN GOD INCREASE IN WISDOM?}

^{Jesus cannot be God, for it is impossible that God would need to increase in wisdom.}

^{Jesus increased in wisdom:}

^{Luke 2:52- And Jesus increased IN WISDOM and stature, and in favour with God and man.}

^{God is all-knowing:}

^{1John 3:20- God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Jesus is not all-knowing, which eliminates him from being God.}

^{It is only THE FATHER who is all-knowing:}

^{The Trinitarians would argue that Jesus has two natures and that it was only the "human" part of Jesus that increased in wisdom, but that argument splits Jesus into two persons. One person cannot be both omniscient and not omniscient.}

^{We do not have 2 Jesus'...the all-knowing Jesus and the limited knowledge Jesus.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and that ONE Jesus was not omniscient according to the scriptures.}

^{Luke 2:52- And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.}

^{THE TWO-NATURES DOCTRINE SPLITS JESUS INTO TWO PERSONS}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus is both a created being and an un-created being, which splits Jesus into two persons.....the created Jesus and the un-created Jesus.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"I will try to answer this important question: As God He could not be tempted: but as a man He could be tempted, and that strongly, and could yield to the temptations. His human nature must pass through the same test and trial Adam and Eve passed through. His human nature WAS CREATED; it did not even possess the angelic powers. It was human, identical with our own."

"That Jesus had two natures one CREATED and one eternal - united in a single human body is beyond question."

"Jesus has a CREATED human soul just like we do"

"Christ is the uncreated-CREATED Being"

"Jesus was both man and God, both CREATED and uncreated,"

"The Christ, the Messiah, is both uncreated and CREATED."

"Jesus is the only being in existence who is both CREATED and uncreated"

"He is CREATED, yet uncreated. He is omnipotent, yet capable of suffering. He is human, and divine."

"Jesus' physical body was CREATED;"

"The union of the CREATED and the Uncreated."

"The Father is "greater" than the incarnate Christ because Christ's humanity is a CREATION, though in His divinity, He is equal to the Father."

"Now, Jesus Christ was a God-Man who lived upon the earth because He possessed a CREATED fleshly body,"

"For how is it possible that the same nature should be at once CREATED and uncreated, mortal and immortal, circumscribed and uncircumscribed?"}

^{So, according to the trinitarians, Jesus is both a created being and an un-created being. That is an absurd false teaching.}

^{How many Jesus' do we have?}

^{One person cannot be both a created being and un-created being.}

^{Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that was created and another part that was uncreated.

We do not have two Jesus'....the created Jesus and the un-created Jesus.}

^{We have only one Jesus...the begotten (created) son of God.}

^{John 1:14-And the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (And we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN (created) of the Father,)...

John 3:16- For God (the Father) so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN (created) son,.....

1John 4:9- In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God (the Father) sent his only BEGOTTEN (created) son into the world,...

John 1:18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only BEGOTTEN (created) Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:18- because he hath not believed in the name of the only BEGOTTEN (created) Son of God.}

^{Over and over again we see the trinitarians splitting Jesus into 2 persons.}

^{1. We have the Jesus who died on the cross and the Jesus who didn't die on the cross.

2. We have the Jesus who was equal with the Father and the Jesus who wasn't equal with the Father.

3. We have the Jesus who was created and the Jesus who wasn't created.

4. We have the Jesus who was tempted and the Jesus who wasn't tempted.

5. We have the Jesus who was lower than the angels and the Jesus who was higher than the angels.

6. We have the Jesus who doesn't know the time of his return and the Jesus who does know the time of his return.

7. We have the Jesus who was resurrected and the Jesus who wasn't resurrected.

8. We have the Jesus who is God and the Jesus who has a God.

9. We have the Jesus who is omnipotent and the Jesus who needed to be given power.

10. We have the Jesus who was all-knowing and the Jesus who has limited knowledge.

11. We have the Jesus who is the mediator and the Jesus who is not the mediator.

12. We have the Jesus who was anointed and the Jesus who was not anointed.

13. We have the Jesus who is visible and the Jesus who is invisible.

14. We have the Jesus who is the Son of God and the Jesus who is God.

15. We have the Jesus who prayed and the Jesus who did not pray.

16. We have the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a beginning.}

^{17. We have the Jesus who has a human mind and the Jesus who has a divine mind.}

^{18. We have the Jesus who is named Jesus and the Jesus who is named Jehovah.}

^{19. We have the Jesus who ascended and the Jesus who did not ascend.}

20. We have the Jesus who is part of the trinity and the Jesus who is not part of the trinity.

^{The "two-natures of Christ" doctrine is in reality the "two-persons of Christ" doctrine.

The 2-natures doctrine is not the truth. Jesus did not have a heavenly nature, but he was made like unto his brethren in all things....}

^{Heb 2:16-17 to 3:3- For verily HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS; but he took on him the seed of abraham. Wherefore in ALL THINGS it behoved him to be MADE (created) like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconcilliation for the sins of the people.....For this MAN was counted worthy of more glory than Moses,...}

^{Heb 2:16 clearly teaches that Jesus did NOT have a heavenly nature.}

^{Jesus made reconcilliation for sins as a MAN without a heavenly nature.

The Bible teaches that Jesus had only ONE nature, that being man:}

^{Jesus was a man approved of God and not a "God-man" approved of God:}

^{Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....}

^{It is the MAN Jesus who is our mediator and not the "God-man" Jesus:}

^{1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

Heb 7:19-25- For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was JESUS made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But THIS MAN, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.}

^{Jesus was made lower than the angels:}

^{Heb 2:7- Thou MADEST (created) him a little lower than the angels

Heb 2:9- But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels

Heb 2:16-17 to 3:3- For verily HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS; but he took on him the seed of abraham. Wherefore IN ALL THINGS it behoved him to be MADE (created) like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconcilliation for the sins of the people.....}

^{Jesus was lower than the angels because he was a man only. He was like us in all things, which means that he was not a "God-man."}

^{If Jesus were a "God-man" like the trinitarians claim, then Jesus was not like us in all things, which would make heb 2:17 a lie.}

^{Heb 2:17 is not a lie. Jesus was like us in all things. We do not have two natures and neither did Jesus have two natures. Jesus had only one nature just like we do.}

^{GOD IS A SPIRIT}

^{Jesus is not a spirit which excludes him from being God.}

^{Luke 24:38-39- And he said unto them, why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

God is an invisible spirit:}

^{John 4:24- God is a spirit....

Col 1:14-15- In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: who is the image of the INVISIBLE God,...

How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus could be God since he was not a spirit and God is a spirit?}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 natures and that the "man" part is flesh and the "God" part is a Spirit.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Are there two natures in Jesus Christ? Yes, there are two natures in Jesus Christ, the Divine Nature and the human nature." It is thus clear that for most Protestants and Catholics that when Jesus walked the face of the earth, he was a spirit and a man simultaneously."

"Jesus was God in the Spirit.... Christ was man in the flesh and God in the spirit."

"Jesus Christ is true God and true Man, as has been shown already. Jesus' Divinity is obviously pure spirit and invisible. Jesus' humanity is soul and body, and his body is obviously visible. "

Wrong: Jesus was not a "man-spirit" when he walked the earth.}

^{So, according to the trinitarians, we have a visible Jesus and an invisible Jesus.}

^{That teaching is false, for it splits Jesus into two persons.}

^{We do not have 2 Jesus'....The visible Jesus and the invisible Jesus.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and the ONE Jesus was visible.}

^{JESUS PRAYED TO HIS GOD

Jesus cannot be God, for God does not pray. God receives prayer!}

^{Mark 14:35-36- And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him. And he said, abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Luke 22:41-42- And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Matt 26:39- And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father,........ And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{The Father is the God of Jesus:}

^{Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

1Pet 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

The trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 natures and that he prayed only in his "human" part.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus prayed in His humanity, not in His deity."

"What, then, is the explanation of the prayers of Christ? It can only be that the human nature of Jesus prayed to the eternal Spirit of God. The divine nature did not need help; only the human nature did."

"Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.....Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature. As a man, Jesus needed to pray."

"Jesus was both God and man. When he prayed to his Father he was a man."}

^{WRONG: Jesus was not a "God-man" who prayed only in his "man" part. That is a ridiculous scenario.}

^{Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that prayed and another part that didn't pray. ONE person cannot both pray and not pray at the same time.

Jesus prayed as a man because he was a man only:}

^{Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

John 8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the truth,...

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

John 15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN did,....

Acts 17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...

Acts 17:31- Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;....

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....}

^{We do not have 2 Jesus'...the Jesus who prayed and the Jesus who didn't pray.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and all of that ONE Jesus prayed, which means that Jesus cannot be God.}

^{If Jesus were God then God prayed to God, which is not possible. We do not have two Gods.}

^{The Father is the ONE and ONLY God:}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,...

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;...

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

JESUS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus claimed to be God, but he never did.}

^{Jesus claimed to be the Son of God:}

^{John 10:36- say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD.

Jesus declared that he is the Son of God and he has also declared that the Father is greater than he and that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is his God. How much clearer can Jesus be that he is not God?}

^{John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...}

^{Quotes

"Did Jesus Christ ever claim he was God? One of the favorite modern arguments for the doctrine of the Trinity is that Jesus Christ claimed to be God, and that because of this, we must judge him to be either to be a liar, or insane, or speaking the truth. This argument appears airtight. But before we make our judgment, perhaps we'd better take a look at the evidence. In John 17:3, while praying to his Father, Jesus made reference to Him as "the only true God."

"Where and when did Jesus claim to be God? The next time you hear this assertion, ask the person who made it for the chapter and verse where Jesus did it; then look it up and read it for yourself. You will find, as I did, that not once did Jesus make such a claim. These assertions are based on our reading into Jesus' otherwise innocent words our own Trinitarian beliefs."

"Did Jesus Christ claim to be God? Let's make sure we can clearly and unambiguously show from the scriptures that Jesus Christ not only said words that could be interpreted as meaning he was God, but actually intended to make such a declaration. To the best of my knowledge, there is no place in scripture where Jesus Christ said he was God."

"claiming to be the Son of God does not constitute claiming to be God."}

^{We better make sure about what Jesus claimed to be, because if we say that Jesus claimed to be God when he did not claim to be God, then we have become false witnesses of Christ.}

^{quote

"If we say that Christ said he was God, when he did not, we make ourselves false witnesses....."}

^{Jesus did not tell people that he is God.

Jesus told people that he is the Son of God.

John 10:36- say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD.

JESUS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE GOD TO PAY FOR SINS}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus must be God to be able to pay for sins, but that is a false teaching.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"if Christ did truly pay for sins as an atonement, he must be God"

"Had there not been a divine self through whom to offer himself, the offering would have been unacceptable to God."

"If the Son, Jesus Christ, were not God, his redemption would not save us. If he were a mere mortal man, the only one he could hope to save would be himself, but his shed blood would never effectively cover your sins or mine."

"If Jesus isn't God, he cannot pay for our sin."

"If Jesus is not God than his death on the cross redeemed no one!"

"if Jesus is not God, He could not atone for all of mankind and we would still be lost in our sins."

Why does jesus have to be God to pay for sins? Did God die on the cross for our sins? No, he did not.}

^{God is immortal and cannot die.}

^{1Tim 1:17- Now unto the king eternal, IMMORTAL, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.}

^{Jesus died on the cross for our sins as a man only, so there is no reason why Jesus has to be God.}

^{The Bible teaches that Jesus atoned for our sins as a MAN only:}

^{The trinitarians insist that Jesus must be God to pay for sins, yet they teach that Jesus paid for sins only in his "man" nature.}

^{It makes absolutely no sense that Jesus had to be "God" in order to pay for sins only in his "man" part.

Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus had a human body because He has a human nature and it was in His body that our sins were placed."

"Obviously, Jesus, the man with His human nature was offered upon the cross."

"As Jesus hung on the cross He was, in His human nature, the true sin-offering for His people, and as such, it was necessary that He suffer alone. God can have no association whatever with sin,"

"It was IN HIS HUMANITY that Jesus took on our sin and by dying atoned for it."

"The Bible never says that God died. It was the MAN Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all."

"Jesus truly saved us by deeds performed in his human nature"

"He went to the cross as a MAN to pay for our sins."

"The Old Testament sacrificial system taught two key truths: that the penalty for sin is death, and that God would provide a Substitute to pay this penalty for us. Of course, ONLY ANOTHER HUMAN CAN DIE TO PAY FOR OUR SINS. This is why the Old Testament predicted that God would one day send a HUMAN to be our Substitute (Isa. 53). And this is why Jesus had to become a human. As God, Jesus could not die - so he had to become human in order to be able to die for our sins."

"Only as a man could Jesus pay the price for the sins of mankind. Only as a man could he be the representative head of the new race of new men, born again of the spirit of God. He is the last Adam and the Second Man. (1Cor 15:45, 47). "For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead."

"Jesus had a human body because He has a human nature and it was in His body that our sins were placed."

"The bible never says that God died. It was the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all."

"It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But we see that Jesus has two natures, not one. It was THE HUMAN PART of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."

"Christ suffered and died in his human nature"}

^{So, according to the trinitarians, it was only the "human" nature of Jesus that atoned for our sins.}

^{If it was only the "human" nature that atoned for our sins then why does Jesus need to be God to atone for our sins?}

^{It makes no sense that God would go through all of that trouble to turn himself into a "God-man" and come into the world to die as a man only.}

^{If Jesus had to be God to atone for sins then he would have died as God.

Jesus atoned for our sins as a man only, which makes it obvious that he didn't need to be God to pay for our sins.}

^{1Tim 2:5-6-For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

Rom 5:11-15- we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man (adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin;........For if through the offence of one (adam) many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one MAN, Jesus Christ,...

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

Quotes

"I don't feel it requires that Christ must be deity to be a sufficient sacrifice for sins....To require deity to be sacrificed for the sins of finite man seems overkill and doesn't pan out in my mind as reasonable."

"I freely admit that I CANNOT offer a conclusive argument that it was necessary for Christ to be God in order to provide an acceptable atonement for the sins of man."

"A comparable difficulty faces Trinitarians when they assert that only the human part of Jesus died. If Jesus were God, and God is immortal, Jesus could not have died. We wonder how it is possible to maintain that "Jesus" does not represent the whole person. Nothing in the Bible suggests that Jesus is the name of his human nature only. If Jesus is the whole person and Jesus died, he cannot be immortal Deity. It appears that Trinitarians argue that only Deity is sufficient to provide the necessary atonement. But if the divine nature did not die, how on the Trinitarian theory is the atonement secured?"

"The saving power of the atonement required Christ to be wholly and utterly human, without any "Divinity of nature", and without any "Deity" which God alone possesses."

"every time the apostles expound the atonement, they demonstrate without possibility of dispute that its salvic efficacy was predicated on Christ's absolute mortality, and not on any 'divine-nature-added-to-human-nature' in whatever form you choose to describe it"

"..Paul tells us that Christ had to be man in order to effect the atonement. Not once does he tell us Christ had to be God. Not once."

"..Trinitarians object to Christ being described as 'only man' as pertaining to his nature - the apostles insisted on it. The fact of the matter is that the trinitarian of today emphasises Christ's alleged 'Divinity'. The apostles emphasised his humanity.....The trinitarian's doctrine, dogma, and teaching are all focused on proving that Christ was God - the apostles' doctrine, dogma, and teaching, are all focused on proving that Christ was a man, the son of God"

"Why is it that every time I read these articles, I see this phrase "God died for our sins". No he didn't, I have NEVER seen referance to that in the bible. Where does this come from? God sent his only son, JESUS to die for our sins, he himself, did NOT die. Nowhere in the bible does it say that God was crucifed, died and was buried, on the 3rd day he rose from the dead."

"But here's the tough one for me. Jesus was executed on a roman cross and died. Does that mean that God died? Even the question feels blasphemous. Did God die?....Did God die on two pieces of wood, with nails through his hands and feet? Logic offers a ready answer. Jesus is God. Jesus died on the cross. Therefore, God died on the cross. Simple syllogism. But I don't know that can subject the scriptures to that sort of analysis?not when we are dealing with something like the Incarnation.....We could approach it differently. God didn't die on the cross. Rather it was the human nature that God had robed Himself in. The man died but not the God. But I find this wholly unsatisfactory. It seems to be a denial of the Incarnation? It splits the human and divine natures such that Jesus can no longer be considered one person."

"The doctrine of the double nature of Christ develops the idea that there are two distinct persons in Christ, each with different cognizant abilities. Trinitarians refute the claim that they have made two distinct persons out of Jesus, but the language employed is demonstrative of this undesired consequence. It is argued that he made some of his statements as God and others as a man. This hypothesis shows that trinitarians represent Jesus as two separate persons:"

"The Trinity concept insists that Jesus had to be a God-man to be the Savior. If he was a mere man, they say, how could he take upon him the sin of the whole world? It sounds good to make such extravagant claims about Jesus. Generally, we cannot pay sufficient homage to our Savior for his great sacrifice, so why not go all out in our claims for him? To some extent that is how the Trinity was started, countering claims that Jesus was just a mere man. As the defense of our Savior was made, so the claims for him grew and became exaggerated from being a perfect man and Son of God, until at last the ultimate claim was made that he was in fact God. Then followed the super patriotism and the cry "To the fire" with those who dare claim Jesus someone less than God. History records John Calvin burned (roasted) Michael Servetus at the stake for not believing the Trinity. As they lit the flames, Michael Servetus cried out, "Oh thou Son of the eternal God have pity on me." One observer said, We might have had pity on him if he had said, "Oh Eternal Son of God." Why is church history so lacking in mercy and kindness and so mean?.... let us go along with this exalted claim that Christ is God a claim neither he nor Scripture makes. Let us accept their claim that he was God and, therefore, God died for us. May we ask, How could an immortal God die? Did the Absolute God die? The creed maintains Christ was "very man." Hence, to call God "Christ" gives them a name, but not a Christ. It was the "very man" Christ who died. No matter how they define it, they have only a "very man" who died. How, then, did "very God" die? God is immortal, death-proof. God could not die; only some flesh form could die. Despite the semantics, they come away with only a perfect "human sacrifice." That is exactly what we believe and claim....Unless the complete Trinity died on the cross, Trinitarians have but a very man for their savior. While Trinitarians insist Jesus was wholly God and wholly man, their burden is to prove this and also to show that both God and man died on the cross. The Bible does not say this."

"The doctrine of the double nature of Christ creates a distorted view of Jesus. If we try to conceive of a being who is both God and man, we become unhappily bewildered. Our notions of what it is to be man are very different from our notions of what it is to be the almighty God. The two terms have their own unique characteristics and are so different that they cannot be predicated of the same being:.......Now by the nature of a thing we mean its qualities. To say therefore that Christ possesses both a divine and a human nature, is to say that he possesses both the qualities of God and the qualities of man; has the same mind consequently is both CREATED and uncreated, both finite and infinite, both dependent and independent, both changeable and unchangeable, both mortal and immortal, both susceptible of pain and incapable of it, both able to do all things and not able, both acquainted with all things and not acquainted with them.......... Now, to use the words of another in expressing my own sentiments, if it be not certain that such a doctrine as this is false,......... It is in vain to call it a mystery; it is an absurdity - it is an impossibility. According to my ideas of propriety and duty, by assenting to it I should culpably abuse those faculties of understanding which God has given me to distinguish between right and wrong, truth and error. ........The doctrine of the double nature of Christ, like that of the Trinity, is a doctrine of inference. Neither doctrine is declared in any verse, nor can they be expressed in the language of Scripture. Scattered verses are assembled in quasi-syllogistic form, inferences are drawn from newly-created contexts, and it is assumed that the Messiah is both a mortal man and the almighty God. The absurdity of this method is manifest in the body of theology that comes from it:.........This doctrine makes utter confusion of our understanding of our Lord Jesus Christ, the living Word of God, and the Bible, the written Word of God. There is simply nothing in Scripture that supports the amazing supposition that he is both God and man. There is nothing anywhere, no analogy, no terminology, no defense of any sort that can be produced to support the idea that anybody could be both God Almighty and a man. The doctrine of the double nature of Christ, like that of the Trinity, turns the Bible into confusion, rendering the clearest verses obscure and clouding what we know to be true about God and man:........we find no passage in the Bible, and there is none, in which it is taught that our Savior had two natures, one human and one divine; but he is always spoken of as a single being, "the Christ, the Son of the Living God.".........The practices of interpretation that give rise to the doctrine of the double nature of Christ foster the negation of the words of Jesus and render them unintelligible. That Christians would accept a mechanism that allows such blatant disregard for Jesus' own words is shocking. The idea that our Lord delivered distinct precepts to his church, and then following generations would work feverishly to alter his words and make them a mysterious hypothesis, is unconscionable. It is impossible to understand the words of Jesus without a clear idea of who he is, and the doctrine of the double nature prevents us from obtaining this necessary understanding of his identity:........The doctrine of the double nature of Christ develops the idea that there are two distinct persons in Christ, each with different cognizant abilities. Trinitarians refute the claim that they have made two distinct persons out of Jesus, but the language employed is demonstrative of this undesired consequence. It is argued that he made some of his statements as God and others as a man. This hypothesis shows that trinitarians represent Jesus as two separate persons:"

"God's justice is perfect. It is the very habitation of His throne (Psalm 89:14). Because of His justice, peace and harmony will prevail throughout the ages of glory to come. His plan of atonement by the ransoming work of Jesus is based upon perfect justice. Scripture after Scripture repeatedly affirm that atonement was secured by "the man Christ Jesus" and his shed blood. No Scripture proposes Christ's divinity to be the basis of atonement."

"I understand your point. But what I see in the New Testament is a little bit different. I don't see anything that says God has to die in order for salvation to be wrought. Rather, what I see is that a sinless human person needed to die to fulfill God's covenant requirements. Hebrews chapter 2, for example, says that Jesus had to be a man in order to die an effective death --it doesn't say he had to be God. Now why is that? If we consider Paul's comparison of Christ with Adam in Phil 2, Rom 5, and 1Cor 15, I think the picture begins to emerge. Sin eneterd the world through a real man; hence it had to be conquered through a real man."}

^{Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and he was a man only. Being a man only does not negate in the least what Jesus did on the cross.}

^{Jesus was a sinless man who died for our sins:}

^{1 Peter 2:22 -Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth.

1 John 3:5- And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Hebrews 4:15- For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21- For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew not sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1pet 1:19- But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:...}

^{1John 2:2- Jesus is the reconciliation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Pet 2:24- Jesus bared our sins in his own body on the cross, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

John 1:29- Behold the lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Rev 1:5- Jesus loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

Col 1:14- we have redemption through the blood of Christ, even the forgiveness of sins.

Isa 53:5- he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:12- he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

1Cor 15:3- Christ died for our sins.}

^{Jesus Christ is the savior of the world}

^{Luke 2:11- For unto you is born this day in the city of David a saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

1John 4:14- And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the son to be the saviour of the world.

GOD CANNOT ASSOCIATE WITH SIN}

^{Jesus cannot be God, for God cannot associate with sin.}

^{Hab 1:13- Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity(sin).}

^{Jesus became sin for us.}

^{2Cor 5:21- For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.}

^{If Jesus were God then God became sin which can never be.}

^{The trinitarians would argue that Jesus has two natures(God-man) and that it was only the "man" part of Jesus who became sin.}

^{That scenario is false, for it splits Jesus into two persons.

We do not have two Jesus'....the Jesus who became sin and the Jesus who cannot associate with sin.}

^{We have only one Jesus and that one Jesus took our sins upon himself on the cross.

The MAN Christ Jesus is the mediator}

^{The trinitarians teach that a "God-man" is the mediator, which is unscriptural.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"As the God man, He is the mediator"

"this Mediator; he is God-man"

"The one Mediator, the God-man"

"Who is this Mediator? He is the God-man Christ Jesus."}

^{The above teachings do not line up with the scriptures.}

^{The scriptures teach that our mediator is a MAN:}

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;...

Heb 7:19-25- For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was JESUS made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But THIS MAN, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.}

^{Jesus atoned for our sins as a MAN}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus is both God and the mediator of God, which is crazy theology.}

^{Jesus would be the mediator between men and himself if that scenario were true.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"As the God man, He is the mediator"

"this Mediator; he is God-man""The one Mediator, the God-man"

"Mediator - Because Jesus is fully God, He can represent God to man. Because He is fully man, Jesus can represent man to God."

"Who is this Mediator? He is the God-man Christ Jesus."}

^{Wrong: The mediator is not a "God-man."}

^{Jesus cannot be both the ONE God and the ONE mediator at the same time.}

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;...

Jesus would be two persons if he were both God and the mediator between God and men.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 natures (God-man) and that it is only the "man" nature of Jesus who is the mediator.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"As a MAN He can be the mediator between God and man"

"1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." It is as MAN that Christ mediates for us, and He was still mediator and therefore man when Paul wrote this in 63 A.D. The verse, furthermore, ties Jesus's role as savior and mediator between God and man with HIS HUMANITY. If He wasn't human, He wouldn't be an appropriate mediator."}

^{So, according to the trinitarians, Jesus is mediator only in his "man" nature.}

^{Excuse me, but how could Jesus be the mediator but not be the mediator at the same time?}

^{We do not have two Jesus'..... the man Jesus who is mediator and the God Jesus who is not mediator.

We have only one Jesus...the MAN Christ Jesus who is the mediator:}

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;...

Heb 7:19-25- For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was JESUS made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But THIS MAN, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus must be both God and man to be our mediator, which is not true doctrine.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Our mediator must be both God and man"

"This mediator has to be both God and man at the same time or salvation is not possible."

"To be the mediator between God and Man, Jesus must be both"

"Such a mediator must be at once divine and human, divine,"

"only one who was both God and man could be our mediator"

"Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and humanity. In order to act as such a mediator, Jesus Christ must be both divine and human."}

^{The scriptures do not teach that the mediator has to be both God and man for salvation to possible, so be not led astray.}

^{The scriptures teach that our mediator is a MAN only.}

^{The trinitarian scenario for the mediator is vastly different than the biblical scenario for the mediator.

Here is the trinitarian scenario for the mediator:

The ONE Mediator The ONE God

Men ---------------> The "Man" nature of Jesus <--------------(The Father...The "God" nature of Jesus....The Holy Spirit)}

^{Here is the biblical scenario for the mediator:

The ONE Mediator The ONE God

Men ---------------> The Man Christ Jesus <-------------- The Father}

^{The Father is the ONE God and Jesus is the ONE mediator between the Father and men.

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;...

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,...

John 14:6- I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto THE FATHER, but by me.

Eph 2:18- For through Christ we both have access by one spirit unto THE FATHER.

Quotes

"Jesus As Mediator Cannot Be God Himself. "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Tim. 2:5). Jesus is mediator between God and men. Jesus, therefore, is not God Himself. If Jesus Himself were God and equal with God, as trinitarians assert, He would not be in a position to serve as mediator. As mediator one must be a third party. If Jesus were God and equal with God, He would be one of the two parties and could not serve as mediator between the two--God and man. (Gal.3:20.) The fact that Jesus is a mediator nullifies the possibility of His being part of a trinity."

"The message of who Jesus is, and all that he is, is absolutely central to everything Christians believe. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5). It is a man who is our mediator, the man Christ Jesus."

THE BLOOD OF CHRIST}

^{It is the blood of christ plus nothing that saves us from our sins.}

^{Eph 2:13- But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

1John 1:7- But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Rev 1:5- And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Rom 5:9- Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Eph 1:7- In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Heb 9:12- Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 13:12- Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Matt 26:28- For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Col 1:20- And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Heb 10:19- Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,}

^{The trinitarians teach that the blood that Jesus shed on the cross is unacceptable if he is not God.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"if Christ did truly pay for sins as an atonement, he must be God"

"Had there not been a divine self through whom to offer himself, the offering would have been unacceptable to God."

"if Jesus is not God, then you have no savior. Either He is God or He is less then God and could not die for anyone else's sins."

"If Jesus was not God, then He could not have died for our sins and we are still lost."

"if Jesus is not God, He could not atone for all of mankind and we would still be lost in our sins."

"if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world"

"if Jesus is not God, then men have no savior"If Jesus is not God, then his death on the cross could not pay the price for all men's sins.

"If Jesus isn't God, he cannot pay for our sin."

"If Jesus is not God than his death on the cross redeemed no one!"

"If Jesus is not God, then there is no salvation for men."}

^{WRONG- Jesus does not have to be God to be our redeemer.}

^{God did not atone for our sins, so the claim that Jesus must be God to pay for sins is without merit.}

^{What a total denial of Jesus it is to say that the blood he shed on the cross is unacceptable if he is not God.

Jesus will deny us if we deny him, so it is imperative to know his true identity.}

^{2Tim 2:12- if we deny him, he also will deny us:...

Matt 10:33- But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.}

^{The true identity of our savior is the MAN Christ Jesus. That is what the scriptures teach.

It was the MAN Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all:}

^{1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...}

^{It was the MAN Christ Jesus who offered himself for our sins:}

^{Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..}

^{We received the atonement through the MAN Christ Jesus:}

^{Quotes

"God's justice is perfect. It is the very habitation of His throne (Psalm 89:14). Because of His justice, peace and harmony will prevail throughout the ages of glory to come. His plan of atonement by the ransoming work of Jesus is based upon perfect justice. Scripture after Scripture repeatedly affirm that atonement was secured by "the man Christ Jesus" and his shed blood. No Scripture proposes Christ's divinity to be the basis of atonement."

"Why is it that every time I read these articles, I see this phrase "God died for our sins". No he didn't, I have NEVER seen referance to that in the bible. Where does this come from? God sent his only son, JESUS to die for our sins, he himself, did NOT die. Nowhere in the bible does it say that God was crucifed, died and was buried, on the 3rd day he rose from the dead."

"every time the apostles expound the atonement, they demonstrate without possibility of dispute that its salvic efficacy was predicated on Christ's absolute mortality, and not on any 'divine-nature-added-to-human-nature' in whatever form you choose to describe it"

"I freely admit that I CANNOT offer a conclusive argument that it was necessary for Christ to be God in order to provide an acceptable atonement for the sins of man."

"..Paul tells us that Christ had to be man in order to effect the atonement. Not once does he tell us Christ had to be God. Not once."

Jesus does not have to be God. We already have a God...The Father who is the ONE God.}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

1Tim 2:5-6-For there is ONE God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{How does Jesus being God make his sacrifice more acceptable?}

^{Is his shed blood somehow better if he is God and not just a man?}

^{God did not atone for our sins, so it is not necessary for Jesus to be God.}

^{The MAN Christ Jesus atoned for our sins by himself:}

^{Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

1Tim 2:5-6-For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

Rom 5:11-15- we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man (adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin;........For if through the offence of one (adam) many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one MAN, Jesus Christ,...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man (adam) came death, by MAN (Jesus) came also the resurrection of the dead.

Heb 7:19-25- For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was JESUS made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But THIS MAN, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Heb 2:17- 3:3- Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to MAKE RECONCILLIATION FOR THE SINS of the people.......For this MAN was counted worthy of more glory than moses,....}

^{Jesus bared our sins in his own body without any help from a "God" nature:}

^{1Pet 2:24- Jesus bared our sins in his own body on the cross, that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Heb 10:10- By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

1Tim 2:5-6-For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.}

^{We have redemption through the blood that Jesus shed on the cross and not through Jesus being God.}

^{Eph 1:7- In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Matt 26:28- For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Rev 1:5- And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Rom 5:9- Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.}

^{The trinitarians teach that we are anti-christs if we deny that Jesus is God, but the scriptures teach no such thing.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Anyone who doesn't believe Jesus is God in human flesh is fueled by the Antichrist."

"Those that deny the deity of Jesus is a deceiver is an antichrist."

"if you deny that Jesus is God in flesh then you are of the spirit of anti-christ"

"1John 4:2-3 is saying that if you deny that Jesus is God in the flesh then you are of the spirit of anti-christ"}

^{1John 4:2-3 does not say that we are anti-christs if we deny that Jesus is God.}

^{1John 4:2-3 says that we are anti-christs if we deny that Jesus is THE CHRIST.}

^{1John 4:2-3- Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-christ,...}

^{"Christ" does not mean "God"

"Christ" means the "anointed one" of God.

Jesus is the Messiah---the anointed one of God

Acts 10:38- How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:}

^{Jesus was anointed with power, which means that he cannot be God.}

^{God is all-powerful and does not need to be anointed with power.

How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus could be God since he was anointed by God?}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 natures and that he was anointed only in his "human" part, which may sound good on the surface, but that teaching splits Jesus into two persons...the Jesus who was anointed and the Jesus who was not anointed.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"it must have been his human nature that was anointed,"

"the human nature of Jesus was "anointed"

"The human nature only was anointed with the Spirit; the divine nature, being infinite, could receive no increase of gifts, it having a fulness of perfection by eternal generation."

"The person of Christ was anointed in the human nature,"

"God anointed the human nature of Jesus."}

^{Wrong: God did not anoint just part of Jesus.}

^{We do not have 2 Jesus'....the anointed Jesus and the not-anointed Jesus.}

^{We have only ONE Jesus and all of the ONE Jesus was anointed by God.

The Father alone is God and he anointed his Son Jesus:}

^{Ps 45:7- Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Heb 1:5-9- Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee...And again, I will be to him A FATHER, and he shall be to me a Son....Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Acts 10:38- How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

John 6:27- Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the son of man shall give unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER sealed.}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but one God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,..

We do not have to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.}

^{We have to believe that Jesus is THE CHRIST to be saved:}

^{John 20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is THE CHRIST,...

1John 5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is THE CHRIST is born of God:..

1John 4:2-3- Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-christ,...}

^{Christ is not God, but God is the head of Christ.}

^{1Cor 3:23- ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

1Cor 11:3- the head of Christ is God.}

^{Jesus is not the "God Christ," but Jesus is the Christ of God.}

^{Luke 9:20- whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, the CHRIST OF GOD.}

^{"Christ" is the Son of the living God}

^{Matt 16:15-16- He(Jesus) saith unto them(the apostles), But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, thou art the CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

John 6:69- And we (the apostles) believe and are sure that thou art that CHRIST, the Son of the living God.}

^{We are not anti-christs if we deny that Jesus is God.}

^{We are anti-christs if we deny that Jesus is the Christ:}

^{1John 2:22-23- Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is THE CHRIST? He is anti-christ, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:...}

^{The doctrine of Christ is that Jesus came in the flesh and not that Jesus came as God.}

^{2John 7-11- For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, hath not God. He that abideth in the DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

1John 4:2-3- Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus CHRIST is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-christ,...

Quote

"THE doctrine of Christ" was clear in John's time. He was unwilling to receive any contrary thinking. John held uncompromisingly to this doctrine, saying, "If any one comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into the house or give him any greeting; for he who greets him shares his wicked work" (2 John 10, 11, RSV). In this booklet, we will discuss the false teaching John was addressing. Suffice it to say here, it did not include a defense of the doctrine of the Trinity. The Trinity concept was foreign to the early Church and did not emerge until the third and fourth centuries. Through time this "doctrine of Christ" has developed into a theology meaning something different from that which was held by John and the entire early Church."}

^{ALL
OF JESUS DIED}

^{The
trinitarians teach that only part of Jesus died:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"It
was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."}

^{"the
divine part of Jesus did not die, as God does not die"}

^{"He
did not die according to his divine nature, but according to his
human nature."}

^{"The
death of Christ was only his human nature"}

^{"The
human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."}

^{How
can only part of a person die?}

^{The
trinitarians have split Jesus into two persons.... the human Jesus
who died and the divine Jesus who did not die.}

^{We
do not have the "divine Jesus" and the "human Jesus,"
but we have only one Jesus....the MAN Christ Jesus who died for our
sins!}

^{1Tim
2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God
and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,..}

^{All
of Jesus died on the cross and not just part of him:}

^{Matt
27:50- Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up
the spirit.}

^{Luke
23:46- And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father,
into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up
the spirit.}

^{John
19:30- When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is
finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the spirit (died).}

^{John
19:33-34- But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead
already, they brake not his legs: But one of the soldiers with a
spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.}

^{The
trinitarians teach that only part of Jesus was resurrected:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"In
His human nature He rose from the tomb and ascended into heaven,"}

^{"The
God/Man, Jesus was killed on the cross but the divine nature of Jesus
resurrected the human nature of Jesus after three days in the tomb."}

^{"When
Jesus died, the human nature died, not the divine. Likewise, when
Jesus rose from the dead, it is the physical body that was raised in
a glorified state, not the divine nature."}

^{"The
divine nature of Christ never perished and never ceased being part of
the Trinity, but the divine nature was not raised. It is only the
physical nature that died and was resurrected,"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus did not have two parts with only one part being resurrected
from the dead.}

^{We
do not have two Jesus'.... the Jesus who was resurrected and the
Jesus who was not resurrected.}

^{We
have only ONE Jesus and all of that ONE Jesus was resurrected from
the dead.}

^{The
trinitarians teach that only part of Jesus ascended into heaven:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"But
that ascension was realized only in His human nature"}

^{"Of
the ascension we confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, in His human
nature, departed from the earth and went to heaven."}

^{"In
His human nature He rose from the tomb and ascended into heaven,"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus did not have two parts with only one part ascending into
heaven.}

^{When
Jesus ascended, all of him ascended.}

^{We
do not have two Jesus'...the Jesus who ascended and the Jesus who did
not ascend.}

^{Jesus
was only one person and all of that one person ascended to his God
(the Father).}

^{John
20:17- Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto
him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me
not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren,
and say unto them,}^{I
ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God}^{,
and your God.}

^{JESUS
DOES NOT HAVE 2 MINDS

The trinitarians teach that Jesus
has two minds, which is not true.}

^{Jesus
would be two persons if he had two minds. One person cannot have two
minds.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"Christ has two minds and two wills"

"Jesus
had (has) 2 minds. He has two wills"

"There are two
consciousnesses in Christ"

"he has two minds, two
wills, two spirits"

"Jesus Christ possessing two
natures, and therefore two intellects"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus does not have two minds, but he has only one mind, which is a
human mind.

We do not have 2 Jesus'...the Jesus with a
divine mind and the Jesus with a human mind.}

^{We have only one
Jesus who has only ONE mind.}

^{The two-natures doctrine
teaches that "Jesus has 2 minds," which is very
strange.}

^{Think about Jesus having two brains (minds) and then
ask yourself if that is the kind of doctrine that you want to
accept.}

^{The Bible teaches us to reject strange doctrines:}

^{Hebrews
13:9- Be not carried about with various and strange doctrines.}

^P^{RAY
ONLY TO THE FATHER}

^{Jesus instructed us to pray only to the
Father:}

^{Matt 6:6- But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy
closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, PRAY TO THY FATHER which is
in secret;.....

Matt 6:9- After this manner therefore pray ye:
OUR FATHER which art in heaven,...

Luke 11:1-2- And it came to
pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one
of his disciples said unto him, Lord, TEACH US TO PRAY, as John also
taught his disciples. And he said unto them, WHEN YE PRAY, say, OUR
FATHER which art in heaven,....}

^{The Father alone
is Almighty God, so He is the only one that we are to pray to.}

^{1Cor
8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph
4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,...

1Tim 2:5-
For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and
men, the man Christ Jesus;...

John 17:3- And this is life
eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD,
and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Mark 12:29- The Lord
our God is ONE Lord:...}

^{Praying to anyone but
God the Father is idolatry.

Quotes

"Only
the true God can be prayed to. A prayer to any other god would be an
act of idolatry"

"To offer prayer to anyone but God
is idolatry"

"Our prayers should be addressed only
to the true God"

"Nowhere are we taught to pray to
anyone other than Almighty God. To do so is blasphemy and
idolatry"

"To pray to anyone but the living and true
God is a slap in his face. It is idolatry that he hates."

"A
Christian is never to pray to any other than The Father"

"I
have heard people use Acts 7:59 as an example of prayer directed to
Jesus. Is it biblical to pray to Jesus? It has been interesting to
observe that Acts 7:59 is the one and only passage people ever use to
try to teach that it is permissible to also pray to the Son, although
it is obvious from actual instructions in Scripture and the actual
examples of prayer in Scripture, prayers are always addressed to the
Father."

"According to the Bible, every prayer
should be addressed to the Father and never to the Son.... Even after
the ascension of Jesus - when He took His role as High Priest, all
prayers recorded in the Book of Acts and the Epistles are always
addressed to God the Father."

"Jesus also taught in
the sermon on the mount, `But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy
closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to the Father which is
in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee
openly." Matthew 6:6' Why do trinitarians pray to Jesus the son
of the virgin Mary, or to his mother, against his own instructions?
If the "Trinitarians" cannot follow the words of Jesus
Christ himself, how can they claim to be his followers? Does not his
words count for anything?"}

^{THE FATHER ALONE
IS OUR CREATOR}

^{The trinitarians teach that a Triune God is our
creator, which is not the truth.}

^{We were not created by a
Triune God, but the Father alone is our creator.

The
Father alone is God and he alone is our creator.}

^{1Cor 8:6-
`Yet there is for us only one God, THE FATHER, who is THE CREATOR OF
ALL THINGS and for whom we live.

Gen 1:27- So God (the Father)
created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father
of all,...}

^{The Father created the heavens BY
HIMSELF:}

^{Isa 44:24- I (the Father) am the Lord that maketh all
things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that speadeth abroad
the earth BY MYSELF.

Isa 37:16- O LORD of hosts, God of
Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even
thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven
and earth.}

^{The Father alone is Lord of heaven
and earth:}

^{Luke 10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Matt
11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father,
Lord of heaven and earth,...}

^{THE
FATHER ALONE IS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB}

^{Exo 3:6-
Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the
God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he
was afraid to look upon God.}

^{The God of Abraham,
Isaac, and of Jacob raised up Jesus from the dead:}

^{The Father alone raised up
Jesus from the dead:}

^{Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle, (not of men,
neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and GOD THE FATHER, who raised
him from the dead;)...

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the
dead by the glory of THE FATHER.}

^{The scriptures
teach that:}

^{1. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob raised up
Jesus from the dead.

2. The Father alone raised up Jesus from
the dead.}

^{When you line up Acts 5:30 and Acts
3:13 with Gal 1:1 and Rom 6:4, you see very clearly that the Father
alone is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.}

^{Acts 5:30- The
God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a
tree.

Acts 3:13- The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of
Jacob, the God of our Fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye
delivered up,...

Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle, (not of men,
neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and GOD THE FATHER, who raised
him from the dead;)...

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the
dead by the glory of THE FATHER.}

^{The Father
alone is the God of Israel}

^{Mark 12:29- And Jesus answered him,
The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our
God is ONE Lord:

1Cor 8:6- `Yet there is for us only ONE God,
THE FATHER, ......

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the
Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ
Jesus;...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,...

Ps
41:13- Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting, and to
everlasting. Amen, and Amen.}

^{Ps 68:8- The earth shook, the
heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was
moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel.}

^{Ps 72:18-
Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel, who only doeth wondrous
things.}

^{Ps 106:48- Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from
everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise
ye the LORD.}

^{Isa 37:16- O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that
dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of
all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.}

^{Matt
15:31- Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb
to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to
see: and they glorified the God of Israel.}

^{There
is no God beside the Father.}

^{Isa 43:10- I am he: before me
there was no God formed, neither shalt there be after me.

Isa
44:6- beside me there is no God.

Isa 44:8- Is there a God
beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 45:5- I
am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me.

Isa
45:21- there is no God else beside me.

Deut 4:35- Unto thee it
was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is
none else beside him.

Deut 4:39- Know therefore this day,
and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven
above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Deut
32:39- See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with
me:..

I Sam 2:2- There is none holy as the LORD: for there is
none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

I
Kings 8:60- That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD
is God, and that there is none else.

I Chron 17:20- O LORD,
there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee,
according to all that we have heard with our ears.}

^{JESUS
IS NOT JEHOVAH}

^{The
Trinitarians teach that Jesus is the Jehovah of the old testament,
which is false.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"Jesus
is Jehovah"}

^{"Jesus
is YHWH of the old testament"}

^{"Jesus
Christ is himself Jehovah"}

^{"Jesus
is the Jehovah God of the old testament"}

^{"Jehovah
God is Jesus Christ"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus is not Jehovah, but the Father alone is Jehovah.}

^{Jesus
is the only begotten (created) Son of Jehovah God.}

^{The
personal name of the Father is Jehovah:}

^{Exo
6:3- And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.}

^{Ps
83:18- That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art
the most high over all the earth.}

^{The
personal name of the Son is Jesus:}

^{Luke
1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thywomb, and bring forth a
son, and}^{shalt
call his name JESUS.}

^{The trinitarians teach that the name Jehovah is applied to Jesus as well
as to the Father.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"The
sacred name Jehovah is applied to Jesus as well as to the Father"}

^{"The
name Jehovah can be applied to both the Father and the Son"}

^{The
name "Jehovah" is not applied to Jesus, but the name
"Jehovah" is applied only to the Father, because the Father
alone is God.}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus has 2 names which is totally
unscriptural.}

^{Jesus
has only ONE name!}

^{Luke
1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a
son, and shalt call his name JESUS.}

^{The
Father ALONE is named Jehovah:}

^{Ps
83:18- That men may know that thou, whose name ALONE is Jehovah, art
the most high over all the earth.}

^{Luke
10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee,
O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...}

^{Matt
11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father,
Lord of heaven and earth,...}

^{1Cor
8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...}

^{Eph
4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..}

^{Rev
4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was
set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne.}

^{Mark
12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...}

^{Mark
10:18- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? there is
none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).}

^{Luke
18:19- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? none is
good, save ONE, that is, God (the Father).}

^{Matt
19:17- Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is,
God (the Father).}

^{1Tim
2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God
and men, the man Christ Jesus;...}

^{John
17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven,
and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also
may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that
he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And
this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY
true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{How
do the trinitarian explain how Jesus could have two names?}

^{Well,
the trinitarians would say that Jesus has two natures and that the
human nature is named Jesus and the God nature is named Jehovah.}

^{That
scenario is not the truth.}

^{We
do not have two Jesus'.....the Jesus who is named Jesus and the Jesus
who is named Jehovah.}

^{We
have only one Jesus and he has only one name.}

^{Luke
1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a
son, and shalt call his name JESUS.}

^{THE
FATHER IS THE HOLY SPIRIT}

^{I
am an anti-trinitarian, but I oppose the teachings of the
anti-trinity groups.}

^{The trinitarians erroneously teach
that all anti-trinitarians deny that the Holy Spirit is a
person.}

^{Trinitaran quotes

"All
anti-trinitarians have one thing in common when it comes to the Holy
Spirit. They all deny the Spirit is a person"

"Anti-Trinitarians
not only reject the Holy Spirit is one of three members of the
Godhead, (Trinity) they reject that the Holy Spirit even exists as a
person "

"Since all anti-trinitarians deny that the
Holy Spirit is a person, trinity doctrine is proven by default. There
is no in-between position:.."}

^{WRONG- I am
an anti-trinitarian and I don't deny that the Holy Spirit is a
person, so it is inaccurate to teach that all anti-trinitarians deny
that the Holy Spirit is a person.}

^{I believe that the Holy
Spirit is the person of the Father!

Trinitarian
quote

"if the Holy Spirit is a person, then trinitarians
are right"}

^{Wait a minute! Just because the
Holy Spirit is a person doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit is the
third person of a Trinity.}

^{What about the Father?}

^{Is
the Father a person? Yes. Is the Father Holy? Yes. Is the Father a
Spirit? Yes. Is the Father, then, "a Holy Spirit?"
Yes.}

^{The Father is a person and the Father is "a Holy
Spirit," yet the trinitarians teach that the Father is not the
Holy Spirit. That is craziness.

The trinitarians
are wrong for thinking that there is no "in-between"
position regarding the Holy Spirit.}

^{There is another position
other than believing that the Holy Spirit is the third person of a
trinity or that the Holy Spirit is just the "energy" or
"power" of God and that position is that the Father is the
Holy Spirit.

Both the trinitarians and the
anti-trinity groups are wrong about the Holy Spirit.}

^{The Holy
Spirit is not the third person of a Trinity nor is the Holy Spirit
just the "energy" or "power" of God.}

^{The
Holy Spirit Is God}

^{The scriptures teach that the Holy Spirit
is God and that the Father alone is God, so there can be no doubt
that the Father is the Holy Spirit.}

^{Acts 5:3-4- But Peter
said, Ananias, why hath satan filled thine heart to lie to THE HOLY
SPIRIT, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it
remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in
thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart?
thou hast not lied unto men, but UNTO GOD.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto
us is there but ONE GOD, which is THE FATHER,...

Eph 4:6- ONE
GOD and Father of all, who is above all,..}

^{The
Father is not separate from the Holy Spirit, but the Father is the
Holy Spirit.}

^{ARE THERE TWO SPIRITS? NO!}

^{The trinitarians teach that the Father is a Spirit and they also teach
that the Father is separate from the Spirit.

1. The trinitarians teach that the Father is separate from the
Spirit.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The Father is not
the Holy Spirit"

"The Father and the Spirit are
seperate"

"The Holy Spirit is distinct from God the
Father"

"The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from
God the Father"

"The Holy Spirit is not the same
person as Father"}

^{2. The trinitarians teach
that the Father is a Spirit.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"God
the Father is Spirit."

"We believe in God the
Father, an infinite, personal SPIRIT, perfect in holiness, wisdom,
power, and love."

"Jesus Christ stated quite clearly
that God the Father is a Spirit:God is a Spirit: and they that
worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24) The
Bible indicates that God the Father exists in some glorious state in
heaven as a spiritual being."}

^{Excuse me,
but how can the Father be a Spirit and also be separate from the
Spirit? Are there two Spirits? No!}

^{If the Spirit were separate
from the Father like the trinitarians claim, then we have two
Spirits, which is totally unscriptural.}

^{The
scriptures teach that there is only ONE Spirit}

^{1Cor 12:13- For
by ONE Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews
or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to
drink into ONE Spirit.}

^{Eph 4:4- There is one body, and ONE
Spirit,...}

^{The Father is a Spirit, so the Father
is the ONE Spirit.}

^{The Father is a holy
spirit}

^{The term "Holy Spirit" describes what the
Father is:}

^{The Father is Holy:}

^{John 17:11- and I
come to thee, Holy Father,....}

^{The Father is a Spirit:}

^{Matt
10:20- For it is not ye that speak, but the SPIRIT of your Father
which speaketh in you.}

^{The Father is Holy and
the Father is a Spirit, which makes the Father a "Holy
Spirit."}

^{The trinitarians have taken the description of
the Father (the holy spirit) and have made it into a person that is a
separate being from the Father.

THE
SPIRIT OF THE FATHER}

^{Line
up Matt 10:19-20 with Mark 13:11 and Luke 12:11-12 and you will see
that "the spirit of your Father" is the Holy Spirit:}

^{Mark
13:11- But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no
thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate:
but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it
is not ye that speak, but THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Luke 12:11-12- And
when they shall bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates,
and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or
what ye shall say: for THE HOLY SPIRIT shall teach you in the same
hour what ye ought to say.

Matt 10:19-20- But when they
deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it
shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. For it is
not ye that speak, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER which speaketh in
you.

TRINITARIANS BELIEVE THAT THE
FATHER IS "A HOLY SPIRIT" BUT IS NOT "THE HOLY
SPIRIT"}

^{Here are five examples of the trinitarians teaching
that the Father is a Spirit:}

^{Trinitarian quotes

1.
"God the Father is SPIRIT, the heavenly Father of Jesus
Christ"

2. "The Father, who is A SPIRIT, infinite,
eternal, and unchangeable in all his attributes."

3. "God
the Father is SPIRIT."

4. "Jesus Christ stated quite
clearly that God the Father is a Spirit: God is a Spirit: and they
that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24)
The Bible indicates that God the Father exists in some glorious state
in heaven as a spiritual being."

5. "We believe in
God the Father, an infinite, personal SPIRIT, perfect IN HOLINESS,
wisdom, power, and love."}

^{The fifth quote
above is a perfect example of what I am talking about. The trinity
teacher says he believes that the Father is a Spirit and that the
Father is perfect in holiness, which means that he believes that the
Father is "a Holy Spirit."}

^{The
trinitarians teach that the Father is not the Holy
Spirit:}

^{*Trinitarian quotes*

"The Father is not
the Holy Spirit"

"The Father and the Spirit are
seperate"

"The Holy Spirit is distinct from God the
Father"

"The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from
God the Father"

"The Holy Spirit is not the same
person as Father"}

^{WRONG- The Father is not
a separate person from the Holy Spirit, but the Father is the Holy
Spirit.

To believe that the Father is "a
Holy Spirit" but is not "the Holy Spirit" is
insanity.}

^{How can the Father be "a Holy Spirit"but
not be "the Holy Spirit?" What? Do we have two holy
spirits? I don't think so.}

^{There is only ONE
Holy Spirit!}

^{1Cor 12:13- For by ONE Spirit are we all baptized
into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or
free; and have been all made to drink into ONE Spirit.

Eph
4:4- There is one body, and ONE Spirit,...}

^{The
Father is "a holy spirit," so there can be no doubt that he
is the ONE and only Holy Spirit.

The trinitarians have created quite a dilemma for themselves by teaching
that the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father. The dilemma is that
they have two Holy Spirits on their hands.}

^{#1 Holy Spirit- The
Father who is a Spirit

#2 Holy Spirit- The third person of a
Trinity

Quotes

"Jesus also
said, "God (the Father) is a SPIRIT!' (John 4: 23, 24). Knowing
that God the Father, is HOLY, will He then not be a Holy Spirit?
Thus, the Trinitarian is faced with two Holy Spirits in his teaching
- the Holy Spirit Himself (Third Person) and the Father."

"The
Father is the Holy Ghost"

"The one God is Father of
all, is holy, and is a Spirit. Therefore, the titles Father and Holy
Spirit describe the same being."

"The Bible calls
the Holy Spirit the "Spirit of the LORD" (Isaiah 40:13),
the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2), and the Spirit of the Father
(Matthew 10:20). Since there is only one Spirit, all these phrases
must refer to the same being. The Holy Spirit is none other than
Jehovah God and none other than the Father."

"Father
and Holy Ghost are simply two different descriptions of the one God.
The two terms describe the same being"

"God The
Father is Spirit, and since He is absolutely holy, it follows that He
is the Holy Spirit. There is no need for two Holy Spirits, especially
since the Scriptures plainly state in numerous places that there is
one God (Ge 41:25 Mal 2:10 Mr 12:32 Ro 3:30 1Co 8:6 Eph 4:6 1Ti 2:5
Jas 2:19)."

"the Holy Spirit is the Father"

"Well
if the Father is Spirit, and holy which He is; and there's also a
Holy Spirit besides, THAT'S TWO HOLY SPIRITS!"

"the
Holy Spirit is the Father as we have said before. What else could the
Father be but Holy Spirit? There are not two Holy Spirits that are
both co-equal Gods."

"How many Spirits are there?
God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), and the Holy Spirit is a
Spirit by definition. Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13;
Ephesians 4:4)."

"The Holy Spirit cannot be
separated from the Father,.....That which was conceived in the virgin
Mary was of the Holy Ghost. Matt. 1:20. The truth becomes evident
that the Holy Spirit is the Father of the Son. To try to separate the
Father and the Holy Spirit and form two Persons, would give the Son
two Fathers, which is impossible. Definitely the Father and the Holy
Spirit would have to be the same Spirit.There is only ONE SPIRIT. Eph
4:4. "For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into one body..."
1Cor. 12:13."

"The Bible affirms very clearly that
our Father IS the Spirit. Did the Father of the man Jesus of Nazareth
conceive Jesus in the womb of Mary? In Trinitarianism the answer is
that he did not. In Trinitarian doctrine, another person altogether
conceived the man Jesus of Nazareth and that person is the Holy
Spirit, someone who is not the Father in Trinitarianism. In other
words, Trinitarians are caught in the serious dilemma of having one
person conceiving baby Jesus (the Holy Spirit) but another person
being his father (God, the Father of Jesus). It is an absurdity of
absurdities. "The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy
Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will
overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called
the Son of God." (Luke 1:35). The honest reader can see
that the Spirit of God the Father conceived baby Jesus of Nazareth
and not a 3rd person who is not the Father. In Trinitarianism, the
Holy Spirit is not the Father and they create for themselves here the
ridiculous predicament of having one person conceive baby Jesus but
Jesus having another person altogether as his father. Absurd. Another
clear indication that the Father is the Holy Spirit are parallel
statements made by Matthew and Luke: "When they bring you before
the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not worry about
how or what you are to speak in your defense, or what you are to say;
for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought
to say." (Luke 12:11-12). "But beware of men, for
they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their
synagogues; and you will even be brought before governors and kings
for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. But when
they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say;
for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is
not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in
you." (Matthew 10:17-20). The term "Spirit of God"
is obviously a term which means "Spirit of God the Father."
However, in Trinitarian doctrine, "the Spirit" is not the
Spirit of the Father but a 3rd person in addition to the Father and
so they must conclude and do conclude that, "the Father is NOT
the Holy Spirit." But we have clear Scriptures which show the
Father is the Holy Spirit. And again the Trinitarian doctrine is
easily proven wrong."

The
fact that the Father is the Holy Spirit is one of the main things
which show that the trinity is a false teaching. The Father is the
Holy Spirit, which means that there is no third person of a trinity,
which means that there can be no trinity.

Jesus
Does Not Have 3 Spirits In Him}

^{Just how many spirits dwell in
Jesus?}

^{If the trinitarians were right (and they are not),
there would be three separate Spirits in Jesus:}

^{1. The Father
-- John 14:10- but the Father that dwelleth IN me, he doeth the
works.

2. The Holy Spirit-- Trinitarians teach that the Father
is seperate from the Holy Spirit and that the Holy spirit is the
third part of a trinity.

3. The God part of Jesus--
Trinitarians teach that Jesus has a God part, which is a
spirit.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Are there two
natures in Jesus Christ? Yes, there are two natures in Jesus Christ,
the Divine Nature and the human nature." It is thus clear that
for most Protestants and Catholics that when Jesus walked the face of
the earth, he was a spirit and a man simultaneously."

"Jesus
was God in the Spirit.... Christ was man in the flesh and God in the
spirit."

"Jesus Christ is true God and true Man, as
has been shown already. Jesus' Divinity is obviously pure spirit and
invisible. Jesus' humanity is soul and body, and his body is
obviously visible. "}

^{So, according to the
trinitarians, Jesus has 3 separate spirits dwelling within him----the
Father who is a spirit, the third person of a trinity who is a spirit
and the God part of Jesus who is a spirit.}

^{Do you now see why
the Father cannot be separate from the Holy Spirit and why Jesus
cannot be a "God-man?"}

^{You end up with 3 spirits in
Jesus when you separate the Father from the Holy Spirit and when you
add a "God part" to Jesus.}

^{The
Trinitarians have 3 separate spirits crowded into Jesus, which is
ridiculous.}

^{Fortunately, there are not 3 spirits in Jesus.}

^{There is only ONE Spirit and that ONE Spirit dwells in
Jesus.}

^{1Cor 12:13- For by ONE Spirit are we all baptized into
one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free;
and have been all made to drink into ONE Spirit.

Eph 4:4-
There is one body, and ONE Spirit,...}

^{The only
spirit that dwells in Jesus is the Father who is the holy
spirit.}

^{John 14:10- but the Father that dwelleth in me, he
doeth the works.

The Father is not distinct from
the Holy Spirit like the Trinitarians teach. The Father is the Holy
Spirit!}

^{The message of the Bible is very
simple...there is only one God (The Father) who is a Holy
Spirit.}

^{The message of the Trinity is a convoluted mess....3
persons equal 1 God, Jesus is two (God-man) yet still one, the Father
is a "holy spirit," but is not "the Holy Spirit,"
Jesus has 3 separate spirits dwelling in him, Jesus was alive before
he was conceived, Jesus is not the same person as the Father yet
Jesus is the same God as the Father, Jesus is both God and the Son of
God at the same time, one part of Jesus died on the cross but the
other part did not die, Jesus has two natures and two wills and two
minds, Jesus is both created and uncreated at the same time, Jesus
raised himself from the dead, Jesus is both all-knowing and not
all-knowing at the same time, Jesus is both equal and not equal to
the Father at the same time, and so on and so on....

Jesus
was not a "God-man," but he was a God-bearing man.}

^{The
Father, who is the Holy Spirit, dwelt IN Jesus.}

^{John 14:10-
but the Father that dwelleth IN me, he doeth the works.

Col
2:9- For IN him dwelleth all the fullness...

2Cor 5:19- To
wit, that God (the Father) was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto
himself,...

John 14:10- but the Father that dwelleth IN me, he
doeth the works.}

^{Jesus was a temple of God the
Father just like every believer is a temple of God the Father:}

^{1Cor
6:19- know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit
(the Father), which is IN you, which ye have of God,...

1Cor
3:16- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God (the Father), and
that the Spirit of God (the Father) dwelleth IN you?

Eph 4:6-
One God and FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN
you all,...

2Cor 6:16-18- And what agreement hath the temple
of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God
hath said, I will dwell IN them, and walk IN them; and I will be
their God, and they shall be my people.Wherefore come out from among
them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean
thing; and I will receive you. And will be A FATHER unto you, and ye
shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Matt
10:19-20- But when they deliver you up take no thought how or what ye
shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye
shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR
FATHER which speaketh IN you.

Rom 8:11- But if THE SPIRIT OF
HIM (the Father) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell IN you, HE
(the Father) that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken
your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth IN you.}

^{Compare
Rom 8:11 with Eph 1:17-20 and Rom 6:4}

^{It was the Father who
raised up Jesus from the dead, so "The spirit of him"
mentioned in Rom 8:11 is the Father's spirit. Rom 8:11 states that it
is "the spirit of the Father" that dwells IN us, which is
powerful proof that the Father is the Holy Spirit.}

^{We have
only ONE holy spirit that dwells IN us and Rom 8:11 shows very
clearly that the Father is the ONE holy spirit that dwells IN
us.}

^{1Cor 12:13- For by ONE Spirit are we all baptized into one
body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and
have been all made to drink into ONE Spirit.

Eph 4:4- There is
one body, and ONE Spirit,...}

^{Rom 6:4- Christ was
raised up from the dead by THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.}

^{Eph
1:17-20- That THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY,
may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened;
that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches
of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the
exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to
the working of his mighty power, Which he (the Father) wrought in
Christ, when he (the Father) RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD and set him at
his own right hand in the heavenly places,...

Rom 8:11- But if
THE SPIRIT OF HIM (the Father) that raised up Jesus from the dead
dwell IN you, HE (the Father) that raised up Christ from the dead
shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth IN
you.}

^{The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the
Father}

^{Matt 10:19-20- But when they deliver you up take no
thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that
same hour what ye shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but THE
SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER which speaketh in you.

Mark 13:11- But
when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought
beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but
whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is
not ye that speak, but THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Luke 12:11-12- And
when they shall bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates,
and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or
what ye shall say: for THE HOLY SPIRIT shall teach you in the same
hour what ye ought to say.}

^{Jesus was indwelt by
the Father and not by the third person of a trinity.}

^{John
14:10- but the FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the
works.}

^{The Father put his holy spirit upon his
Son, Jesus:}

^{Isa 42:1-3- Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine
elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I HAVE PUT MY SPIRIT UPON HIM: he
shall bring forth judgment to the gentiles. He shall not cry, nor
lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. a bruised
reed shall he not break,.......

Matt 12:18-20- Behold my
servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well
pleased: I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT UPON HIM, and he shall shew judgment to
the gentiles. He shall not strive, nor cry; neiher shall any man hear
his voice in the streets. A bruised reed shall he not
break,....

Acts 10:37-38- That word, I say, ye know, which was
published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the
baptism which John preached; how GOD (the Father) anointed Jesus of
Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:...

Acts 2:33-
Therefore being by the right hand of GOD exalted, and having received
of THE FATHER the promise of THE HOLY GHOST,....}

^{The
Father sent his Holy Spirit upon his son, Jesus, as he came out of
the water:}

^{Matt 3:16- And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up
straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto
him, and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD descending like a dove, and
LIGHTING UPON HIM: and lo a voice from heaven, saying, this is my
beloved son, in whom I am well pleased.

Mark 1:10-11- And
straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened,
and THE SPIRIT like a dove descending UPON HIM:...

Luke 3:22-
And THE HOLY GHOST descended in a bodily shape like a dove UPON
HIM,.....

John 1:32- and John bare record, saying, I saw THE
SPIRIT descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode UPON
HIM.

Acts 2:33- Therefore being by the right hand of GOD
exalted, and having received of THE FATHER the promise of THE HOLY
GHOST,....}

^{The Holy Spirit that descended upon
Jesus was the Father's spirit and not a spirit that was separate from
the Father.

The Father's spirit was upon
Jesus:}

^{Isa 61:1- THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME; because
the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he
hath sent me to bind up the brokehearted, to proclaim liberty to the
captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound.

Luke
4:18-19- THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, because he hath anointed
me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted,......

Acts 10:38- How God anointed Jesus of
Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power:...

Acts 2:33-
Therefore being by the right hand of GOD exalted, and having received
of THE FATHER the promise of THE HOLY GHOST,....}

^{The
Father is the sealer}

^{We are sealed by the Holy Spirit:}

^{Eph
4:30 And grieve not the holy spirit of God, whereby ye are
sealed...}

^{The Father sealed Jesus:}

^{John
6:27- Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat
which endureth unto everlasting life, which the son of man shall give
unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER sealed.}

^{The
Holy Spirit goes out from the Father:}

^{Luke 11:13- how much
more shall your heavenly FATHER give the Holy Spirit to them that ask
him?

John 15:26- "When the counselor comes, whom I will
send to you FROM THE FATHER, the spirit of truth who GOES OUT FROM
THE FATHER, he will testify about me.}

^{The Holy
Spirit goes out from the Father, which makes it impossible for the
Holy Spirit to be separate from the Father.}

^{The reason that
the Holy Spirit goes out from the Father is because the Father is the
Holy Spirit.}

^{The Father pours out HIS SPIRIT
(the holy spirit) IN people:}

^{Joel 2:27-29- And ye shall know
that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the Lord your God,
and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. And it shall
come to pass afterward, that I will pour out MY SPIRIT upon all
flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall
dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: and also upon the
servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out MY
SPIRIT.

Acts 2:17-18- And it shall come to pass in the last
days, saith God, I will pour out of MY SPIRIT upon all flesh:....And
on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of
MY SPIRIT;....

Ezek 39:29- Neither will I hide my face any
more from them: for I have poured out MY SPIRIT upon the house of
Israel, saith the Lord God.

Prov 1:23- Turn you at my reproof:
behold, I will pour out MY SPIRIT unto you,...

Isa 44:3- I
will pour MY SPIRIT upon thy seed,...

Ezek 36:27- And I will
put MY SPIRIT within you,...

Ezek 37:14- And shall put MY
SPIRIT in you,...

Eph 4:6- One God and FATHER of all, who is
above all, and through all, and IN you all,...

2Cor 6:16-18-
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the
temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell IN them, and
walk IN them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith
the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
And will be A FATHER unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters,
saith the Lord Almighty.

Matt 10:19-20- But when they deliver
you up take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be
given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. For it is not ye
that speak, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER which speaketh IN you.

Rom
8:11- But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM (the Father) that raised up Jesus from
the dead dwell IN you, HE (the Father) that raised up Christ from the
dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT that
dwelleth IN you.}

^{There is only ONE Holy
Spirit}

^{We do not have two holy spirits that dwell in us...The
Father and the third person of a trinity.}

^{We have only ONE
spirit that dwells IN us and the Father is that ONE spirit.

1Cor
12:13- For by ONE Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether
we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all
made to drink into ONE Spirit.

Eph 4:4- There is one body, and
ONE Spirit,...

The Holy Spirit Is
The Father Of Jesus}

^{Jesus was created in Mary's womb by the
Holy Spirit:}

^{Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on
this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before
they came together, she was found with child OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT.

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT.

Luke 1:31-35- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in
thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
Jesus......Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I
know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, THE HOLY
SPIRIT shall come upon thee,...}

^{The Bible
teaches that the Holy Spirit created Jesus in Mary's womb.}

^{Now,
just who is the Holy Spirit?}

^{Is the Holy Spirit the third
person of a Trinity? No!}

^{If the Holy Spirit is distinct from
the Father and is the third person of a Trinity like the Trinitarians
teach, then it was the third person of a Trinity which came upon Mary
and conceived Jesus in her womb, which means that the Father is not
the Father of Jesus Christ but the third person of a Trinity is the
Father of Jesus Christ. That makes no sense.}

^{Is the Father the
Holy Spirit? Yes!}

^{If the Father is the Holy Spirit like I
believe, then it was the Father which came upon Mary and conceived
Jesus in her womb, which means that the Father is the Father of Jesus
Christ. Now, that makes perfect sense.

The trinitarians do not believe that the Father is the Holy Spirit, but
they believe that the Holy Spirit is separate from the
Father.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"the Holy Spirit is
not the same person as the Father"

"The Holy Spirit
is distinct from God the Father."

"The Holy Spirit
is the third person of the Trinity"

"We believe that
the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity"}

^{The trinitarians believe that the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father
and is the third person of a Trinity, so when they say that it was
the Holy Spirit who impregnated Mary, they are really saying that it
was the third person of a Trinity who impregnated Mary.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

I've added (the third person of a Trinity) to these
quotes below to emphasize the point I am making.

"The
Holy Spirit (the third person of a Trinity) is the cause of Jesus
being conceived in the womb of Mary."

"Mary, a
virgin, was impregnated by the Holy Spirit (the third person of a
Trinity)"

"It was the Holy Spirit (the third person
of a Trinity) which impregnated Mary"

"The Holy
Ghost (the third person of a Trinity) impregnated Mary"

"Jesus
was conceived by the Holy Spirit (the third person of a Trinity) in
the virgin Mary's womb"

"Protestants generally agree
that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit (the third person of a
Trinity)"

"The Holy Spirit (the third person of a
Trinity) conceived his Son, baby Jesus,.."

"In other
words, the Father of Jesus was none other than the Holy Spirit (the
third person of a Trinity)."

"mary impregnated by
the third person of the Holy Trinity"

"The 2nd
person of the Trinity became a little baby by the 3rd person of the
Trinity"

The trinitarians are wrong.
Mary was not impregnated by the third person of a trinity.}

^{It
was the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, that came upon Mary and
conceived Jesus in her womb.}

^{Jesus did not come
forth from the third person of a trinity, but he came forth from the
Father who is the Holy Spirit.}

^{John 1:14- and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,...

John
16:27- I came out from God (the Father).

John 16:30- we
believe that thou camest forth FROM God (the Father).

John
8:42- I proceeded forth and came FROM God (the Father);..

John
16:28- I came forth FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the
world:...

John 1:14- and we beheld his glory, the glory as of
the only BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,...

Matt 1:18- Now the birth
of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was
espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with
child OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived
in her is OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Luke 1:31-35- And, behold, thou
shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his
name Jesus......Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be,
seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her,
THE HOLY SPIRIT shall come upon thee,...}

^{THE
FATHER HAS TO BE THE HOLY SPIRIT}

^{The Father has to be the Holy
Spirit. If the Father is not the Holy Spirit, then the Father is not
the Father of Jesus Christ.}

^{Whoever conceived Jesus in Mary's
womb is the Father of Jesus Christ.}

^{If the Father is the Holy
Spirit then it was the Father who came upon Mary and conceived Jesus
in her womb, but if the Holy Spirit is the third person of a Trinity
then it was the third person of a Trinity who came upon Mary and
conceived Jesus in her womb.}

^{Quotes

"By
definition, the one who begets (causes conception) is the father of
the one begotten."

"The word "beget" means to
procreate as the father, in other words "cause conception" ..
Therefore one who begets is the Father of the one begotten."

"It
is not physiologically or Scriptural possible to be "conceived"
by one person and then when born, be the son of another person!
Whoever causes a women to conceive is also the FATHER of the child
conceived, NOT ANOTHER AND DIFFERENT PERSON! Jesus was conceived by
the holy spirit. It was the spirit OF the Father, not some other
spirit that caused Mary to conceive."

John
1:14- and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN OF
THE FATHER,...

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
THE FATHER OF JESUS}

^{The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is
the Father of Jesus (Luke 1:35)-(Matt 1:18)-(Matt 1:20).}

^{Jesus
was conceived (created) by THE HOLY SPIRIT in Mary's womb.

The trinitarians teach that the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father
and is the third person of a Trinity, but that scenario is just not
feasible.}

^{The Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus Christ, so it
is not feasible that the Holy Spirit could be distinct from the
Father.}

^{If the Holy Spirit were distinct from the Father, then
we have a crazy scenario in which God the Father would not be Jesus'
Father, but the third person of a Trinity would be Jesus'
Father.

Quotes

And the angel answered
and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power
of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing
which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

"Do
you see WHO Fathered the child? It was the Holy Spirit"

"Is
not the one who conceived you your father? If the Spirit accomplished
the conception, then He alone should be the Father."

"The
Holy Spirit cannot be separated from the Father,.....That which was
conceived in the virgin Mary was of the Holy Ghost. Matt. 1:20. The
truth becomes evident that the Holy Spirit is the Father of the Son.
To try to separate the Father and the Holy Spirit and form two
Persons, would give the Son two Fathers, which is impossible.
Definitely the Father and the Holy Spirit would have to be the same
Spirit.There is only ONE SPIRIT. Eph 4:4. "For by ONE SPIRIT are
we all baptized into one body..." 1Cor. 12:13."

"The
Bible affirms very clearly that our Father IS the Spirit. Did the
Father of the man Jesus of Nazareth conceive Jesus in the womb of
Mary? In Trinitarianism the answer is that he did not. In Trinitarian
doctrine, another person altogether conceived the man Jesus of
Nazareth and that person is the Holy Spirit, someone who is not the
Father in Trinitarianism. In other words, Trinitarians are caught in
the serious dilemma of having one person conceiving baby Jesus (the
Holy Spirit) but another person being his father (God, the Father of
Jesus). It is an absurdity of absurdities. "The angel answered
and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the
power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the
holy Child shall be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35). The
honest reader can see that the Spirit of God the Father conceived
baby Jesus of Nazareth and not a 3rd person who is not the Father. In
Trinitarianism, the Holy Spirit is not the Father and they create for
themselves here the ridiculous predicament of having one person
conceive baby Jesus but Jesus having another person altogether as his
father. Absurd. Another clear indication that the Father is the Holy
Spirit are parallel statements made by Matthew and Luke: "When
they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the
authorities, do not worry about how or what you are to speak in your
defense, or what you are to say; for the Holy Spirit will teach you
in that very hour what you ought to say." (Luke 12:11-12). "But
beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge
you in their synagogues; and you will even be brought before
governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the
Gentiles. But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what
you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to
say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father
who speaks in you." (Matthew 10:17-20). The term "Spirit of
God" is obviously a term which means "Spirit of God the
Father." However, in Trinitarian doctrine, "the Spirit"
is not the Spirit of the Father but a 3rd person in addition to the
Father and so they must conclude and do conclude that, "the
Father is NOT the Holy Spirit." But we have clear Scriptures
which show the Father is the Holy Spirit. And again the Trinitarian
doctrine is easily proven wrong."

"The honest reader
can see that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father who
conceived baby Jesus of Nazareth and not a 3rd and separate person
who is not the Father. In Trinitarianism, the Holy Spirit is not the
Father and they create for themselves here the ridiculous predicament
of having one person conceive baby Jesus but Jesus having another
person altogether as his father. Absurd."

"So the
question, Who is the Father? The Holy Ghost IS the Father! That is
exactly what the Bible says! So if the Father ISN'T the Father, then
Jesus had a surrogate Dad! That is in the doctrine of the
Trinity."

"We need to know, also, who fathered
Jesus. This is related 3 times in the Word.

"Now the
birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was
espoused to Joseph before they came together, she was found with
child of the Holy Ghost." *** Matthew 1:18

"But
while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord
appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear
not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in
her is of the Holy Ghost." *** Matthew 1:20

"And the
angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore
also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the
Son of God." *** Luke 1:35

'All three scriptures proclaim
that the Holy Ghost fathered Jesus. So, by this, we know that the
Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father."

"The
Spirit is also equated with the Father. It is said that the Holy
Spirit caused Jesus' conception (Matthew 1:18-20; Luke 1:35), thus
making the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus. The Father, however, is
spoken of as being Jesus' Father too. Jesus did not have two
fathers, but one."

"The Lord Jesus Christ stated
very clearly about the essence of the Deity, "God is Spirit."
(Jn 4:24) Bearing this in mind and at the same time remembering that
there is only "One Spirit" (Eph 4:4), we shall come to the
important truth that the Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the
same Divine Person......Since there is only one Holy Spirit of God,
who is the Father of us all; there can be no question about the
Father and the Holy Spirit being the one and the same Divine Person.
(Eph. 4:4-6; Jn 4:23-24).... During the birth of our Lord Jesus
Christ, this one and only Holy Spirit of God entered the womb of the
virgin Mary to conceive the Child Jesus (Mt. 1:20-25; Lk. 1:30-35).
The Lord Jesus has no human father. His only Father is God who is the
Holy Spirit. If the Father and the Holy Spirit were two separate and
distinct Persons as taught by some theologians, then Jesus would have
two Fathers, which cannot be true (Eph. 4:6). The truth is, the
Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the same Divine
Person"

We have a major
contradiction if the Father is not the Holy Spirit}

^{Jesus would
be OF the Father and OF the Holy Spirit if the Father were separate
from the Holy Spirit.}

^{Jesus does not have two Fathers...the
Father and the Holy Spirit, but he has only one Father who is the
Holy Spirit.

1. The scriptures teach that Jesus
is OF THE FATHER:}

^{John 1:14- and we beheld his glory, the
glory as of the only begotten OF THE FATHER,...

John 16:28- I
came forth FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world:...}

^{2.
The scriptures teach that Jesus is OF THE HOLY SPIRIT:}

^{The
Father is the Holy Spirit who conceived Jesus in Mary's womb. That is
why the Father is called the "Father."

It
was the Father who came upon Mary and not some "third person"
of a trinity.}

^{Luke 1:31-35- And, behold, thou shalt conceive
in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
Jesus......Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I
know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, THE HOLY
SPIRIT shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee:...}

^{THE
FATHER IS THE HOLY SPIRIT}

^{The
trinitarians teach that the Holy Spirit is equal with the Father,
which is false.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit exist as co-equal"

"The
Holy Ghost is equal to the Father"}

^{Wrong: The
Holy Spirit is not equal with the Father, for how can the Father be
equal with himself?}

^{The Holy Spirit and the Father are not
separate persons, but the Father is the Holy Spirit.}

^{The
term "Holy Spirit" describes what the Father is:}

^{1.
The Father is Holy}

^{John 17:11- and I come to thee, Holy
Father,....}

^{2. The Father is a Spirit}

^{John
4:23-24- But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father
seeketh such to worship him. God (the Father) is a Spirit: and they
that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Matt
10:19-20- But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what
ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye
shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR
FATHER which speaketh in you.

The trinitarians
have taken the description of the Father (the Holy Spirit) and have
created a being that is a separate person from the Father.

The
trinity doctrine falls apart once that you realize that the Father is
the Holy Spirit.}

^{Without the "third person" there
can be no trinity.}

^{The trinity is not the truth.}

^{1.
The Father is not the first person of a trinity, but the Father alone
is God (1Cor 8:6)-(Eph 4:6).}

^{2. Jesus is not the second person
of a trinity, but Jesus is the only begotten (created) Son of God who
said that the Father is the only true God (John 17:3) and that the
Father is greater than he (John 14:28) and that the Father is his God
(John 20:17).}

^{3. The Holy Spirit is not the third person of a
trinity, but the Father is the Holy Spirit.}

^{TRINITARIAN
BAPTISM IS A FALSE BAPTISM}

^{The trinitarian baptism found in Matt 28:19 is an interpolation that does
not belong in the Bible.}

Matt 28:19- Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:..

Matt 28:19 makes no sense. There is no "Father and the Holy Spirit," but there is only the Father who is the Holy Spirit.

The trinitarians teach that the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father, which is false.

The Father is the Holy Spirit which means that the trinitarian baptism is totally unscriptural.

See The Father Is The Holy Spirit

Also, Matt 28:19 contradicts many other verses which teach that baptism is to be done IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS.

Acts 2:38- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins,...

Acts 8:14-16- Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS.

Acts 10:48- And he(Peter) commanded them to BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD.

Acts 19:5- When they heard this, they were baptized IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS.

The Apostle Peter did not baptize people in the name of the Father, son, and holy spirit, but he baptized people only in the name of Jesus:

Acts 2:38- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins,...

Acts 10:48- And he(Peter) commanded them to BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD.

The trinitarians teach that we must be baptised in the name of the trinity, which is not true.

Trinitarian quotes

"for indeed, legitimate baptism is had only in the name of the Trinity"

"The only baptism that is a Christian baptism is in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit".

"A true baptism in the name of Jesus uses the words Father, Son and Holy Spirit. A "Jesus name" baptism is not a baptism at all."

"only a Trinitarian baptism is a Biblical baptism, and the only baptism recognized by God."

WRONG- We do not have to be baptized in the name of the trinity, for there is no such thing as a trinity.

The trinitarian baptism is not a biblical baptism, but it is a false baptism.

Jesus is not "God the Son" and the Holy Spirit is not separate from the Father, so the whole premise of the trinitarian baptism is false.

To be baptized in the name of a trinity is to be be baptized into idolatry.

When you are baptized by the trinitarian formula, you are declaring that God is a trinity of persons, which is idolatry........God is not a trinity of persons.

The Father is the ONE and ONLY God.

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,..

Biblical Baptism

The Bible teaches that baptism is to be done only in the name of the Lord Jesus:

Acts 2:38- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins,...

Acts 10:48- And he(Peter) commanded them to BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD.

Acts 19:5- When they heard this, they were baptized IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS.

(Modalism is a false teaching. Jesus is not the Father......they are two separate beings.)

The Father is the holy spirit and he dwells in us

God (the Father) does not dwell in temples (churches) made with hands:

Acts 17:24- God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands.

Acts 7:48- Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands.

The kingdom of God is within us.

Our body is the temple of God

1Cor 3:16-17- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1Cor 6:19-20- What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the holy spirit which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2Cor 6:16- ye are the temple of the living God.

Luke 17:21- Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The Father is the holy spirit and he dwells IN us:

Eph 4:6- One God and FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN you all,...

2Cor 6:16-18- And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God (the Father) hath said, I will dwell IN them, and walk IN them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be A FATHER unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Matt 10:19-20- But when they deliver you up take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER which speaketh IN you.

Rom 8:11- But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM (the Father) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell IN you, HE (the Father) that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth IN you.

John 14:10- but the FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

^{The Father Is The Only True God}

^{The trinitarians teach that three persons are the only true God, which is not true.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The Father is the true God, the Son is the true God, the Holy Spirit is the true God. These three are the one God."

"God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally the one true God"

"Trinitarians say the Father is the only true God, the Son is the only true God, and the Holy Spirit is the only true God. All three Persons are the one, true God"}

^{Wrong:
three persons do not make up the only true God, but the Father alone
is the true God.}

The trinitarians teach that there are three "only true" Gods, which is polytheism.

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The
Father is the only true God. But He is not the only one who is the
true God."

"The Father is that God who is the only
true God. But this doesn't prove that only the Father is true
God."

"It's true John 17:3 says the Father is the
only true God. But notice this verse doesn't say that only the Father
is true God."

Excuse me, but how can the
Father be the only true God, but not be the only one who is the true
God? One must alter the meaning of "only" to come up with
such a convoluted teaching.

John 17:3- And this
is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true
God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{The
definition of "ONLY" is "alone," without there
being others.}

^{The Father is the only true God without there
being other "true Gods."}

^{Only- 1. Solely 2. without
there being others; singly

Solely- 1. without another: Singly
2. to the exclusion of all else

Singly- 1. without the company
of others

Alone- 1. Solely}

^{When Jesus
said that the Father is the ONLY true God, he was saying that the
Father ALONE is God.}

^{John 17:3 leaves no doubt that the
Trinity is a false teaching.}

^{The person that the trinitarians
claim is the second person of a trinity (Jesus) declared that the
Father is the only true God.

The trinitarians
argue that John 17:3 doesn't say that Jesus is not the only true
God.}

^{Trinitarian quote

" John 17:3 does not say
that Jesus is not the only true God...... Again, John 17:3 does not
say: "Jesus is not God",...}

^{You know
that something is very wrong when you have to look at what a
scripture verse doesn't say instead of accepting what it clearly
says.}

^{The bible would be an incoherent mess if we interpreted
scripture verses by what they don't say instead of what they do
say.}

^{John 17:3 says very clearly that the Father is the only
true God, which eliminates Jesus from being the only true
God.

Quotes

"One of the things
Trinitarians will try here is a logical fallacy of word equivocation.
They will claim that Jesus is not excluding everyone but the Father
from being "God." They claim that since the word "only"
modifies the word "God," and not the word "Father,"
then the Father is not exclusively the only true God. They will say
that if Jesus had said, "only you [Father] are the true God,"
then Jesus would have indeed been excluding everyone else. So while
it is true that there is only one true God and the Father is that
true God it does not necessarily follow that no one else is also that
only true God. This is a logical fallacy, and therefore a
deception,........The passage obviously distinguishes between the
person of the Father who is the only true God, and the person of
Jesus Christ whom the Father sent. It is obvious that Jesus is
referring to his Father as his God and his God is the only true God.
So the first thing we must see is that Jesus himself is referring to
his Father as the only true God and then distinguishes that person
from himself. It is also rather obvious that Jesus is most definitely
saying the the Father and only the Father is the only true God.
.........It is quite plain to honest thinking minds what John is
telling us. Jesus was praying by himself to his Father. He does not
need to remind his Father of his nature. Jesus' God was his Father
and his God was the only true God. Who else could have been Jesus'
God? No one. The Father was "the" only true God as far as
Jesus was concerned. The only contender was his Father and he also
taught us that his God is also the same God as our God. So if the
only true God for Jesus was his Father then He is also the only true
God for us as well.........."

"We have already
mentioned John 17:3, where the "only true God" is
distinguished FROM Jesus Christ. So damaging was this scripture to
Augustine, that he tried to change it so that "only true God"
was read after "Jesus Christ" to make it sound like Jesus
was the only True God. Couple this with 1 Cor 8:6, "For though
there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as
there are gods many, and lords many; yet to us there is one God, the
Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him." This
scripture alone is disastrous to a Trinitarian, as Jesus is excluded
from the term, "One God."

John 17:3 (English-NIV)
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

"Again we see that
the only True God is the Father, and Jesus Christ was sent by the
only True God and again you cannot make this scripture say anything
else, it is self explanatory. John said that this truth is eternal
life."

"Christ introduced the Father as the only
true God. He never introduced a trinitarian God. Niether did He
introduce Himself as the true God nor teach that he is one of the
persons in the so-called Trinity. And when He introduced Himself as
the one sent by the Father, thus distinguishing Himself from
God."

"Listen to Jesus the Messiah! Pay attention to
what He says! Surely the Son of God would know the identity of the
only true God. And Jesus said it was the Father. The only true God is
the Father."

"(Jn.17:3). There can be no mistake
about what was said here. Jesus made a distinction between Himself
and His Father. He said that the FATHER was true God and further that
He was the ONLY one (singular) true God. Jesus left no room for
argument. He said of Himself that He was Jesus the Messiah (Christ).
He did not include Himself as God in any sense. Are we to believe
Jesus? Or are we to believe what some men have said about Jesus? Sad
to say, there are many professing Christians and believers who do not
believe the Messiah, who deny these words, who twist them to their
own benefit"

"According to Jesus, God is strictly
one Person, not three. Christians who value Jesus as the supreme
revealer of truth should consider his classic words, uttered in a
final prayer. "You, Father, are the only one who is truly God"
(John 17:3). He defined salvation as belief in that One and only true
God, and in himself as the Messiah (John 17:3).

"It is a
serious hijacking of the words of Jesus if one adds to Jesus' creed.
For Jesus, his Father is "the one who alone is truly God, the
only one who is truly God, the one true God"

"Here
Jesus explicitly states that his Father alone is "the only true
God" and that he is the Messiah/Christ whom the "only true
God" has sent. This verse alone forever refutes the idea that
God is three persons and also the idea that Jesus himself is "the
only true God".

"The bible teaches that there is ONE
TRUE GOD and that ONE TRUE GOD is the Father."

We
Do Not Have To Believe In The Trinity To Be Saved}

^{The
trinitarians teach that we have to believe in the trinity to be a
saved christian, which is not the truth.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"Belief in the Trinity is necessary for
salvation."

"the Trinity must be held in order to be
a christian"

"if you have come to a settled
conclusion that the doctrine of the Trinity is not true--you are not
a christian at all. You are in fact a heretic."

"Anyone
who knowingly fails to accept or intentionally rejects the doctrine
of the Trinity cannot be saved."

"The Trinity is a
necessary doctrine to embrace in order for anyone to call themself a
christian."

"Whoever denies the Trinity is an
unbeliever and a heretic"

"We must believe in the
doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved"}

^{WRONG-
We do not have to believe in the trinity in to be saved. Nor are we
heretics if we believe the truth that the Father alone is God.}

^{The
Bible teaches that the Father is the one God, so why are we heretics
for believing that the Father is the one God?}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet
unto is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6-
ONE God and Father of all,...

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The
Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God,
and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

John
17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the
Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast
sent.}

^{Why should we believe in a mysterious
doctrine which cannot be rationally explained over clear doctrine
found in the scriptures?}

^{The Father alone is God is a doctrine
that is supported by the scriptures.}

^{The trinity is not found
in the scriptures.

You will not find the
doctrine of the Trinity in the new testament, because Jesus didn't
teach it and neither did any of his apostles teach
it.}

^{Quotes

"Theologians agree that the new
testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."
(Vol 15 pg 54) Encyclopeia of religion

"The Trinity is
not directly and immediately the word of God." (1967, Vol. XIV
Pg 304) Catholic encyclopedia

"Search as you might, you
will NOWHERE find the concept or doctrine of the "Trnity"
delineated or discussed in the Bible. The apostles never heard of it.
Jesus Christ never referrred to it. The apostle Paul not so much as
mentioned it even once, in passing! It is simply not there. The word
isn't there, and the concept of three divine Persons being "one
God," "Three-in-One," each one being co-equal, and
co-eternal, simply cannot be found stated or clearly implied in
Scripture -- not from Genesis to Revelation!!!"

"Doesn't
that sound strange, that such a cardinal "Christian" belief
and tenet of modern Churchianity is NOWHERE taught in
Scripture?"

"According to traditional Christian
doctrines "The Trinity" is a "Mystery" - A
concept that we as flesh and blood human beings just cannot
understand. My own study of the Bible has led me to conclude that it
must be a mystery to God also, because he does not mention it
anywhere in His Holy Word."

"the Trinity is
unBiblical - it does not appear in the Old or New Testaments at
all."

"Trinity is unbiblical...no where can you find
in the bible that the trinity nor it's essence was thought by Jesus
or his apostles... "

"Many think that the trinity
doctrine is a foundation of true faith. But this is not so. The
trinity doctrine is not actually taught as a doctrine in any biblical
book."

"I think that history shows us clearly that
the doctrine was created by man and his attempt to describe God
whilst remaining politically correct. This doctrine could be
described as a formula, and I think that we do better by trusting in
the Word of God and the scriptures, rather than the word of man and
his creeds. Tell me what the difference between an idol and the
trinity formula is? Are they not both used to create an image of God
with human hands or the mind of man."

"The early
church certainly didn't teach the trinity nor did Jesus himself. On
the contrary Jesus taught that God is greater than himself."

"
The trinity doctrine is definitely not a requirement for true faith
and is not actually taught by Jesus any of the Apostles. "

"So
many have for so long of a time taught the Trinity as fact, that many
don't realize that it is a false theory. If one will study the Real
Bible with an open mind they will find out for themselves that there
is no Trinity "

"The Trinity must be read into the
Sacred Text, placed there by erogenous typology, or simply one must
take the Scriptures out of context. The man-made Trinity Doctrine is
not substantiated by the Holy Scriptures."

"The
trinitarians call themselves orthodox and everybody else heretics
-- those who differ with them on the subject. They consider
themselves the custodians of evangelical truth when they are the
authors of a very well organized lie."

"Did you know
that the Bible never once identifies a three person God? Never. Not
once. You can look high and low and you will never find a single
passage where God is described as three persons. The only thing you
can do is imagine the idea into the Bible. This is quite startling
given the fact that Trinitarians deem this to be the central doctrine
of the Christian faith. In fact, God is mentioned over ten thousand
times in English Bibles and he never ever is identified as a three
person being. So where did this three person God come from? It came
from the minds of men who created a God in the imaginations of their
mind. They made an image of God. They reasoned that if God is God and
Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God then God must be a three
person being. However, as we have seen above, this is a complete
fallacy. In the Bible, "God" is that being who is the
Father of Jesus Christ. Jesus is never identified as "God."
He is not identified as God at Isaiah 9:6, or John 1:1, or John
20:28, or Titus 2:13, or Hebrews 1:8 or anywhere else in the
Scriptures. The Trinitarian reasoning process begins with all kinds
of false premises. And then they proceed to imagine their imaginary
God back into the Bible. So they imagine their Triune God into
Genesis 1:26 and Matthew 28:19 and like passages. Their God is not
the God of the Scriptures, but the God of their own minds which they
imagine back into the Bible, the Bible that not once mentions their
three person God."

"Proving that a doctrine is false
and not from the Bible is more difficult when it has been erroneously
taught as truth for centuries. The liturgies and creeds as well as
repetitious songs referring to the Trinity and heard and sung since
childhood, have engrained the Trinity concept in minds and hearts.
False concepts become accepted as bedrock truth if never analyzed or
challenged. But brought before the piercing light of Scripture, the
truth becomes crystal clear to the open-minded and sincere Bible
student."

The bottom line is
that the trinity is a false teaching and we certainly do not have to
believe in a false teaching to be saved.}

^{Great Mystery Excuse}

^{The
trinitarians teach that the trinity is a mystery that cannot be
understood or explained.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"It
is a mystery how God can exist in three persons yet be one
God."

"The Trinity is a mystery, therefore cannot be
fully understood by man."

"The Trinity is, to a
large extent, a mystery."

"Even with all the
discussion and delineation that we attempt in relation to the
Trinity, we must acknowledge that it is, in final analysis, a
mystery."

"An understanding of the Trinity remains
incomprehensible to us."

"We cannot fully understand
how the three divine person are one and the same God, because this is
a mystery."

"the doctrine of the Trinity remains an
unresovable and unexplainable mystery."

"I realize
at the outset the utter impossibility of a mortal man understanding,
much less explaining the mystery of the Trinity."

"The
doctrine of the Trinity is a mystery beyond our understanding, beyond
explanation or definition"

"Can the Trinity be
explained? Not by me, I never try to explain that which cannot be
explained."

"We cannot rationally explain the
doctrine of the Trinity"

"We cannot fully understand
how the three divine person are one in the same God, because this is
a mystery."}

^{The
trinitarians cannot rationally explain the trinity, which should tell
you something. It tells me that it is a false doctrine.}

^{If
a doctrine cannot be explained or understood, then it shouldn't be
taught.}

^{1Cor
14:9- except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how
shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.}

^{The
reason that the trinity cannot be explained is because it is not
found in the bible.}

^{Jesus
never taught that he was God or that he was equal with God. He taught
the complete opposite!}

^{Jesus
taught that the Father is greater than he (John 14:28) and that the
Father is the only true God (John 17:3) and that the Father is his
God (John 20:17).}

^{There
is no "mystery" about the identity of God. The Bible is
very specific that the Father alone is God.}

^{1Cor
8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...}

^{Eph
4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,...}

^{John
17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the
Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, who thou hast sent.}

^{The
trinitarians teach many "mysteries" which cannot be
explained or understood.}

^{The trinity is a "great
mystery" that cannot be explained or understood:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"It is a mystery how God can exist in three
persons yet be one God."

"The Trinity is a mystery,
therefore cannot be fully understood by man."

"An
understanding of the Trinity remains incomprehensible to us."

"We
cannot fully understand how the three divine person are one and the
same God, because this is a mystery."

"the doctrine
of the Trinity remains an unresovable and unexplainable mystery."

"I
realize at the outset the utter impossibility of a mortal man
understanding, much less explaining the mystery of the
Trinity."

"The doctrine of the Trinity is a mystery
beyond our understanding, beyond explanation or definition"

"Can
the Trinity be explained? Not by me, I never try to explain that
which cannot be explained."

"We cannot rationally
explain the doctrine of the Trinity"

"We cannot
fully understand how the three divine person are one in the same God,
because this is a mystery."}

^{The
two-natures doctrine is a "great mystery" that cannot be
explained or understood:}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The
union of two natures in Christ's one Person is doubtless one of the
greatest mysteries of the christian religion."

"That
Jesus is both God and human is a mystery beyond our limited
experience."

"This union of two natures in one
person is also a great mystery"

"The union of the
two natures in Christ is incomprehensible"

"The
hypostatic union of a divine and human nature in the God-man is a
deep mystery"

"Admittedly, it (the hypostatic union)
is a great mystery"

"It (the hypostatic union) is
the second greatest mystery. We cannot understand it in this
life."

"No one is able to understand how God became
a man while still remaining God."

"It is a mystery
as to how these two natures co-existed in his one person"

"It
is a mystery how the two natures were in one person- the human nature
and the divine. I cannot explain it, nor do I understand it"

"To
be a christian not only in name but in reality, one must believe in
the divinity of Jesus Christ, that he is true God and true man"

"You
cannot understand how there can be two natures and two wills in one
person, because it is another of the great mysteries: but you must
believe it"}

^{The
eternal sonship doctrine is a "mystery" that cannot be
explained or understood:}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"the
doctrine of Christ's eternal sonship while acknowledging it as a
mystery into which we should not expect to pry too deeply."}

^{The
incarnation is a "great mystery" that cannot be explained
or understood:}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"This is the
great mystery, referred to as the Incarnation,"

"The
incarnation is a mystery that theologians and philosophers have
pondered for millennia."

"The Incarnation is a
mystery, since while you can believe that God became man, you can't
comprehend the profound unity between the divine and human
natures."

"THE INCARNATION is a mystery that
surpasses human understanding."

"The mystery of the
Incarnation cannot be explained."

"We call it the
mystery of the Incarnation, or God taking on human flesh. It is a
mystery, because the truth of the incarnation cannot be
explained"

"we cannot explain the mystery of
the Incarnation,"}

^{It
seems like everything that the trinitarians teach about the trinity
is a "great mystery" that cannot be explained or
understood.}

^{1Timothy 1:5-7- Now the end of the commandment is
love out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith
unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain
jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither
what they say, nor whereof they affirm.}

^{Do you really
want to base your faith on a mysterious doctrine that is not taught
in the scriptures, nor can it be explained or understood?}

^{Why
do that when you can base your faith on the solid doctrine that the
Father alone is God, which is actually taught in the scriptures and
can be explained and understood.}

^{Jesus said in words very
easy to be understood that the Father is greater than he and that the
Father is the only true God and that the Father is his God:}

^{John
14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 10:29- My Father,
which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 17:3- And
this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY
true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 20:17-
Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my
Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.}

^{Paul
taught in words very easy to be understood that the Father is the ONE
God and that the Father is the God of Jesus:}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet
unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,..

Eph 4:6-
ONE God and Father of all,..

1Tim 2:5- there is ONE God, and
one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;..

Eph
1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord
Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you,
making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS
CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom
.....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus
Christ,...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ,...}

^{There was no "great mystery"
to Jesus or to Paul as to the identity of God. They both said that
the Father alone is God.

Believing in the trinity is a
losing proposition. Not only are you believing in something that
doesn't even exist, but it is also idolatry.}

^{We cannot
commit idolatry and still inherit the kingdom of God, so it is
imperative to worship only the Father as God.}

^{Rev 21:8-
Idolaters shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire
and brimstone:..

1Cor 6:9-10- Idolaters shall not inherit the
kingdom of God.}

^{The trinity is idolatry.}

^{God is
not comprised of three separate persons.}

^{God is only one
person, which is the Father.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is
there but ONE God, which is the Father,..

Eph 4:6- ONE God and
Father of all,..

The Father demands that we
worship only him as God. It is the first commandment.}

^{Deut
5:9- Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I
the Lord thy God am a jealous God,..

Deut 5:7- Thou shalt have
none other gods before me.

Deut 11:16- Take heed to
yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and
serve other Gods, and worship them.

Quotes

"It
amazes me that people who profess to read the bible so much can miss
one very important rule that is unchangeable in God's Word. This rule
is that all doctrines of faith are clearly, simply and concisely
stated . And the terms used for these doctrines are in scripture and
the doctrine is stated at least twice. No true doctrines of faith are
developed over time, but rather laid out in their entirety and
plainly ...... It is said that satan's tricks are nothing new, but
just old tricks changed a little for the times. This is certainly
true of satan's favorite called idolatry. Satan always finds new and
provocative ways to re-package this idolatrous con to make these
manure beliefs palatable to unsuspecting believers who are gullible
to satan's endless suggestions. Unfortunately, these cons are foisted
upon believers who many times are sincerely trying to serve God
better, but are in-advertently sucked into one of satan's cons. As
nice as you can doll it up with makeup and fancy words, the trinity
heresy is still idolatry. Sure, satan has made idolatry believable to
some being packaged under the incomprehensible mystery, accept it by
faith lie, but how else to accomplish this insidious task? The common
thread of defeating the power of God in believer's lives has been
idolatry. Look at the Israelites and how often they were in trouble
because of idolatry. Satan doesn't invent new tricks, but rather
renames, repackages, and sells again the moldy and poisonous bread of
his words of death. The day of Pentecost was a day that filled satan
with utter contempt as he saw the beginning of his destruction. In
desperation satan had to foist his greatest cons of his life to do as
much damage as he could to God's plan. And this con was both to
defeat the power of God in the believer's lives, but also to make
them look as foolish as possible. This was accomplished by getting
Christians to make a pagan deity and start the idolatry ball rolling
by making this false idol out of God and His son themselves. And by
saying it is a mystery or it has always been or whatever other manure
you want to swallow, the simple fact however is that you have more
than one god no matter how you want to explain it. And satan laughs
at believers stupidity at being so easily conned again, and this time
it is especially sweet because satan has caused Christians to make
their new idol out of their redeemer, Jesus Christ. God must be very
sad that we were so easily fooled again."

"THERE can
be no compromise with God's truths. Hence, to worship God on his
terms means to reject the Trinity doctrine. It contradicts what the
prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christians believed and
taught. It contradicts what God says about himself in his own
inspired Word. Thus, he counsels: "Acknowledge that I alone am
God and that there is no one else like me."Isaiah
46:9...God's interests are not served by making him confusing and
mysterious. Instead, the more that people become confused about God
and his purposes, the better it suits God's Adversary, Satan the
Devil, the 'god of this world.' It is he who promotes such false
doctrines to 'blind the minds of unbelievers.' (2 Corinthians 4:4)
And the Trinity doctrine also serves the interests of clergymen who
want to maintain their hold on people, for they make it appear as
though only theologians can understand it. See John 8:44.
...Accurate knowledge of God brings great relief. It frees us from
teachings that are in conflict with God's Word and from organizations
that have apostatized. As Jesus said: "You will know the truth,
and the truth will set you free."John 8:32."

"If
he (Jesus) is not God, and we give him the same kind of glory that
only God is worthy of, then we have worshipped someone other than
God, and that is idolatry or polytheism."

"If we are
worshipping a false Christ, we are committing idolatry. We are also
violating the foundation of God's commands. The very first
commandment God spelled out is, "Thou shall not have any other
gods before me". If we create, or follow a god created that does
not represent God as He has revealed Himself through scriptures, we
do not have faith, but a counterfeit religion."

"Those
of us who find we are led to believe in His deity, if we are wrong,
then we must acknowledge that we have sinned the sin of idolatry
-thinking God other than He is. This is simply not acceptable in the
court of God for He has said somewhere, You shall have no other gods
before me, and elsewhere, I am a jealous God."

"Are
you really worshipping God? If Jesus is not God, are you not
committing idolatry by making Jesus " God the Son?" Yes you
are!"

"Worshipping "God the Son" is
idolatry, and idolatry is Biblically condemned; it breaks the first
great commandment of God of not having any gods before him (Exodus
20:3)."

"To say Jesus Christ is God the Son is
idolatry. To say Jesus is the Son of God is truth."

"The
Bible does not give us a doctrine of a trinity, the historical record
shows that modern Christian trinitarian beliefs were not formulated
until about 300 years after the death of Jesus Christ, but in pagan
religions trinitarian beliefs date back to ancient Babylon, thousands
of years before Jesus Christ. The coequal, coeternal, one substance,
three in one trinity is not a Christian Biblical doctrine; yet there
are those who insist that it is the cornerstone of Christianity. In
our day and time the doctrine of the trinity is a cornerstone of
idolatry."}

^{WE
MUST WORSHIP THE FATHER IN TRUTH}

^{Jesus said that we have to
worship the Father IN TRUTH to be true worshippers, so it is
imperative to worship the Father alone as God.}

^{The Father
is with them who call upon him IN TRUTH:}

^{Ps 145:18- The Lord
is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him
IN TRUTH.

1Sam 12:24- Only fear the Lord, and serve him IN
TRUTH with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done
for you.

Joshua 24:14- Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve
him in sincerity and IN TRUTH: and put away the gods which your
fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and
serve ye the LORD.}

^{Worshipping the Father as the
"first person of a trinity" is not worshipping the Father
in truth.}

^{The Father is God alone and he is the only one that
we are to worship as God.}

^{To worship anyone but the Father as
God is to commit idolatry.

Quote

"Idolatry
is the worship of anything other than the true God of the
Bible."}

^{The Father is the only true God of
the Bible}

^{John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up
his eyes to heaven, and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy
Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power
over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou
hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
(the Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast
sent.

We must beware of traditions
of men, because believing in them will spoil our faith.}

^{Colossians
2:8- Beware lest any man come and spoil you through philosophy and
deceitful vanity, through the traditions of men, and ordinances after
the world, and not after Christ.

Believing in
the trinity will spoil our faith, because it is a false
gospel.}

^{There is no such thing as a trinity. The Father is God
alone.}

^{To believe in the trinity is to believe in something
that doesn't even exist.}

^{The Father is not the
first person of a trinity-----The Father is God alone.}

^{Jesus
is not the second person of a trinity----Jesus is the only begotten
(created) Son of God.}

^{The Holy Spirit is not the third person
of a trinity----The Father is the Holy Spirit.}

^{THE
APOSTLE PAUL TAUGHT THAT THE FATHER ALONE IS GOD}

^{Did the
apostle paul teach that God was three separate persons? No, he did
not!}

^{Paul believed and taught that only the Father is
God:}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but one God, which is the
Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above
all,..}

^{Paul taught that the Father is the God of
Jesus:}

^{Quotes

"For
Paul, the Father alone is God. Paul said that there is "one God
and Father of all" (Ephesians ch. 4, v. 6). Paul said again,
"For us there is but one God, the Father . . . and one Lord,
Jesus Christ" (1 Corinthians 8:6)."

"Clearly,
for Paul, Jesus was not God, and he would be shocked to see his
writings used for proving the opposite of what he believed."}

^{JESUS
SAID THAT THE FATHER IS HIS GOD}

^{Jesus ascended to his God}

^{John 20:17- Jesus saith unto
her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to
my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your
Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.}

^{Mark 15:34- My God, My
God, why hast thou forsaken me?}

^{Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh
will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more
out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new
Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...}

^{THE
FATHER ALONE IS THE GREAT "I AM"}

^{The trinitarians
teach that Jesus claimed to be the great "I AM," but that
is not true.}

^{John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,
I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.}

^{Jesus
never claimed to be God, but he told people that he was the Son of
God.}

^{John 10:36- say ye of him, whom the Father hath
sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I
said, I AM the Son of God?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let
him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM
the Son of God.}

^{What did Jesus mean when he
said, "before Abraham was, I am?"}

^{The answer to that
question is found in 1Pet 1:19-20.}

^{1Pet 1:19-20- But with the
precious blood of CHRIST, as of a lamb without blemish and without
spot: Who verily was FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD,
but was manifest in these last times for you,...

Jesus
was not saying that he was alive before Abraham was born, but he was
saying that he was foreordained to be the Christ before Abraham was
born.}

^{1Pet 1:20 states that Jesus was manifest only in these
last limes, which is irrefutable proof that Jesus did not
pre-exist.}

^{Compare other "I AM" verses
with John 8:58}

^{The "I AM" of Mark 14:61-62 refers to
Jesus being the Christ, which is what the "I AM" of John
8:58 is also referring to.}

^{John 8:58- Jesus said unto them,
Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM.

Mark
14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said unto him, art thou THE
CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I AM:..

Mark
8:29- And he said unto them, But whom say ye that I AM? And Peter
answereth and saith unto him, Thou art THE CHRIST.

Matt
16:13-16- When Jesus came unto the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he
asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man
am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some,
Elias; and others Jeremias or one of the prophets. He said unto them,
But whom say ye that I AM? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou
art THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

Luke 9:20- He said
unto them, But whom say ye that I AM? Peter answering said, THE
CHRIST of God.

John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know
that Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will
tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee AM
HE.

John 8:24- if ye believe not that I AM he (christ), ye
shall die in your sins.

John 8:28- When ye have lifted up the
son of man, then shall ye know that I AM he (christ)

John
8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, before
Abraham was, I AM (he) (christ).}

^{Jesus did not
claim to be the great "I AM."}

^{All Jesus was saying
was that he was appointed to be the Christ before abraham was.}

^{The
trinitarians have twisted John 8:58 to mean something that it just
doesn't mean.}

^{The Father alone is God and he
alone is the great "I AM."}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is
there but one God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God
and Father of all, who is above all,..}

^{Quotes

"Christ's
reference to Abraham is to affirm his (Christ's) pre-eminence, not
pre-existence. The Jews had claimed that Abraham was their father
(vs. 39) and so Christ establishes his pre-eminence by stating that
before Abraham was, "I am". He did not say "before
Abraham was, I was" as it is frequently misread. But the Jews,
like modern-day trinitarians, misunderstood Jesus. He was not
claiming to be literally older in years than Abraham. This is
indicated by his prior remark: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to
see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." (vs. 56). Abraham, to
whom the gospel was preached (Gal. 3:8), "saw" the day of
Christ through the eye of faith. Christ was "foreordained before
the foundation of the world, but manifest in these last times".
(1 Peter 1:20). He was foreordained, but not formed. Similarly he was
the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev.
13:8) but literally he was not slain until his crucifixion in the
time of Pilate."

"To understand what Jesus means in
verse 58 you must examine the immediate context, most specifically,
verse 56. That's why I have quoted it for you this way. As Jesus was
explaining, Abraham had the comfort of seeing the coming day of the
Messiah through prophecy, and for this reason rejoiced and was glad.
Jesus' listeners, were very confused (what else is new?) and thought
Jesus was saying that he had actually been with Abraham. It was not
Christ himself, who had been with Abraham, but rather, the promise of
the Messiah, which had been given "before Abraham was".....In
addition, some versions render Jesus' words "Before Abraham was,
I am he" (i.e. the Messiah). There is good exegetical reason to
approve this rendering of the Greek, and the word "he" is
included in the translation of several other passages where the "I
am" appears in the Greek. In other words, Jesus was saying "I
was the eternally appointed Messiah even before Abraham."

"Yahshua
was not declaring that he is the great "I AM" of Ex.3:14.
There are many occurrences in the Greek, which proves that the term
"I am" is a very common phrase, a verb of existence,
meaning "I am He" or "I am the one."

"The
fact of the matter is, the Greek phrase "Ego eimi", simply
means "I am the one", or "I am He."

"Yahshua
was not declaring himself to be Yahweh, or the eternal self existing
one, and Yahshua was not declaring his pre-existence. He was, from
the beginning of Yahweh's plan, to be the Messiah, the deliverer, the
King of Israel, the Son of Yahweh, the Son of the great "I
Am."

"Let's examine the "I am"
sayings of John's Gospel, and see how many of them can be made to fit
the Trinitarian argument from John 8:58. John 4:25-26 The woman
said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is
coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us." Jesus
said to her, "I who speak to you am He [ego eimi]."
Notice that the woman had said "When Messiah comes, he will
teach us all things", and Jesus went on to identify himself as
the Messiah. ("I who speak to you am he.") This is a
perfectly innocent response. There is no claim to deity here.
John 8:24 "I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your
sins; for unless you believe that I am [ego eimi], you shall die in
your sins." Most Bible translations add "he" to
the end of "I am" in this verse, with the implied meaning
"Unless you believe that I am the Messiah, you will die in your
sins." (The same is true of John 4:26.) You will also notice
that the Jews made no attempt to stone him (a surprising show of
self-restraint, if Jesus had spoken the Tetragrammaton!)......The
Jews obviously did not interpret his words as a claim to deity on
the contrary, they merely ask "Who art thou?" This tells us
that they knew he was claiming to be someone, but did not yet know
whom he claimed to be. (And whom did he claim to be? Verse 28 will
tell us shortly.) There is no claim to deity here. ...
John 8:28 Jesus therefore said, "When you lift up the Son of
Man, then you will know that I am [ego eimi]." "When
you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [he.]"
This ties in with John 4:26 and John 8:24. It is another
Messianic claim. The Jews do not take it as a claim to deity, nor do
they see it as blasphemous. (Notice also the complete absence of
stones!) .... John 8:28 When ye have lifted up
When ye have crucified me, and thus filled up the measure of your
iniquities, ye shall know that I am the Christ, ......John 8:58 Jesus
said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was
born, I am [ego eimi]." This the third of three Messianic
claims in John 8. Let's consider it in the light of the events which
have gone before....In the light of his previous Messianic claims, we
can now understand that Jesus' statement in verse 58 is merely a
reference to his foreordained role as Messiah which was
determined by God, even before He called Abraham out of Ur. We find
an echo in the book of Revelation, where Jesus is referred to as "The
Lamb slain from the foundation of the world"

"John
8:58 ... is speaking of the fact that before Abraham even came into
existence, Jesus of Nazareth was foreordained to be the Messiah. The
phrase 'I am he' (ego eimi) is simply an affirmation that Jesus is
indeed the Messiah. See Christ's usage of the phrase in John 4:26,
8.24,28; 13.19; Mark 13.6, cp. John 9.9."

"John
8:58: ""I am he" means a claim to be the Messiah and implies
neither divinity nor preexistence Before Abraham's coming, I
am he, that is, the promised Messiah. The simple phrase "I am
he" is used by Jesus 15 times, but in every case but the present it
is rendered in the Common Version, "I am he" or "It is I."
See Matt. 14:27, Mk 6:50, 14:62, Luke 21:8, 22:70, 24:39, John 4:26,
6:20, 8:24, 28, 13:19, 18:5, 6, 8."

"I contend that
he was NOT saying I AM but "I am He" -the messiah. Before
Abraham foresaw me, God foresaw me and chose me. I was already in
God's mind and plan....I contend that the translators deliberately
dropped off the word "He" to try to project deity onto
Christ to fit their preconceived doctrine. Just a few verses earlier
they twice translated Ego eimi as "I am he". "if
ye believe not that Ego eimi, ye shall die in your sins." (John
8:24)....Three times in this chapter Yahshuah said Ego eimi. I
contend he was saying I am the son and I am the messiah. That was the
whole point of John's Gospel. John says in Chapter 20 I wrote this
book to tell people that Yahshuah is the Messiah, the Son of
God.....4 verses later in John 8:28 he uses Ego eimi again and the
Jews do not riot thinking he is claiming to be God...."Then said
Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye
know that Ego eimi". I am he- the Messiah....I contend that at
no point when he said Ego eimi did the Jews think he was using the
title for Yah. If they did they would have stoned him in verse 24,
and if they missed it in 24, they would have stoned him in 28. The
translators should have consistently translated ego emi as' I am he".
That is how they translated it in verses 24 and 28 but not in
58."

"The phrase "I am" occurs many other
times in the New Testament, and is often translated as "I am he"
or some equivalent ("I am he" Mark 13:6; Luke 21:8; John
13:19; 18:5, 6 and 8. "It is I" Matt. 14:27; Mark 6:50;
John 6:20. "I am the one I claim to be" John 8:24 and
28.). It is obvious that these translations are quite correct, and it
is interesting that the phrase is translated as "I am" only
in John 8:58. If the phrase in John 8:58 were translated "I am
he" or "I am the one," like all the others, it would
be easier to see that Christ was speaking of himself as the Messiah
of God (as indeed he was), spoken of throughout the Old
Testament."

"All other instances of this Greek
phrase (ego eimi) are translated as "I am he" or "I am
(he)"or "I am the one", see John 4:26, 8:24, 8:28,
9:9, 13:9, 18:5. This is recognized as correct by all scholars. There
is no contextual reason to render 8:58 any differently."

"Jesus
is reported as affirming his messiahship through the use of 'ego
eimi'" and that John 4:26 is "the clue to understanding all
other passages where the words 'ego eimi' occur."

"So
what did Jesus mean? In John 4:25, 26 the woman at the well says "I
know that Messiah is coming" Jesus said to her: "I who am
speaking to you am he".(ego eimi). So he is saying "I am he
the Messiah". Hence in 8:58 he is telling them the same thing,
that is, that he is the Messiah."

"8:56 "Abraham
rejoiced greatly at the prospect of seeing my day and he saw it
(through eyes of faith or possibly a vision) and rejoiced." So
Abraham was privileged to see into the future "to Jesus" day. He
looked forward and saw the coming Messiah before he came into
history. So when Jesus says "Before Abraham came into being I am
he" he is not making a statement about literal pre-existence,
but simply claiming to be the One who was promised to come, which
promise existed before Abraham was born and which Abraham was
privileged to see in his mind an ideal or notional pre-existence
of Messiah."

"Is Jesus the God who said "I AM"
in Exodus 3:14? The answer is NO! And when Jesus said "I AM"
(Greek, ego eimi) in John 8:58, was He indicating His alleged
divinity? Definitely not! What was He affirming in this verse? That
He was before Abraham. How is He before Abraham when He was born
later? It must be remembered that Abraham is His ancestor and
therefore came into existence before He (Christ) was born. However,
He is before Abraham because He was foreordained by God even before
the foundation of the world (I Pt. 1:20). It is in this sense that He
was before Abraham."

"John 8:58. To start with, it
is important to notice that Jesus did not use the phrase revealing
God's name to Moses from Exodus 3. At the burning bush God declared
His name as "I am who I am," "I am the Self-existent
One."....The Greek phrase in the LXX reads ego eimi ho hown,
which is not the title clamed by Jesus. Further, this simple phrase
ego eimi is everywhere else rendered "I am he." What Jesus
had just claimed here was that Messiah's day was a reality to
Abraham through the eyes of faith. But Messiah "existed" as
the supreme subject of God's plan long before the birth of Abraham.
"Before Abraham came to be, I am he" is a profound
statement about God's original plan for the world centered in
Jesus, whom John can also describe as "crucified before the
foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8). If Jesus was "crucified
before Abraham" he himself may be said to have "existed"
in the eternal counsels of God, for he was appointed as Savior of the
world before the birth of Abraham."

"the majority of
the translations since the KJV recognize this as the simple meaning
of what Jesus said and meant by supplying in italics the word "he."
"I am he." This is the correct sense, just as in the next
chapter when the blind man is asked whether he is the one who used to
sit and beg. He says ego eimi, and it means, "I am he" or
"I am the one you are talking about." Nobody would dare
suggest that he too was claiming to be the "I am what I am"
of Exodus. Yet that is the very forced understanding your "authority"
would have us adopt. To confirm this as the true meaning, have a look
at John 4. The woman at the well in verse 25 says to Jesus, "I
know that Messiah is coming (he who is called the Christ); when that
one comes, he will declare all things to us." In verse 26,
"Jesus said to her, I who speak to you am [then even the KJV
supplies in italics the obvious meaning] he" (i.e., the
Messiah, not God!). Really, this is elementary to any "authority,"
and to teach otherwise seems quite reprehensible."

"The
second claim, that Christ apparently applied to himself the divine
name I AM, is not as straightforward as appears at first sight.
Despite the bias of many translations, there is no textual
justification at all for the capital letters. The words I am are
simply the usual translation of the present tense of the verb 'to be'
(Gk. ego eimi). In similar grammatical constructions to the phrase
under consideration the translators have added 'he' after the 'I am'
to give the sense. For example, the identical phrase was used by the
healed blind man to identify himself (John 9.9), translated "I
am the man". If this translation is consistently applied to
Christ's use of the phrase any trinitarian inference disappears. Thus
on a rare occasion when Jesus volunteered that he was the Messiah he
used an identical construction (ego eimi, translated 'I am he')
without any hint of pre-existence:

"The woman said to
him, I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ); when he
comes, he will show us all things. Jesus said to her, I who speak to
you am he" (literally "I am he speaking to you". John
4:25-26).

Similarly in two other passages in John 8, just
prior to where Jesus made the alleged I AM statement, the translators
have rendered ego eimi as 'I am he", with no suggestion that it
represents a personal name:

"You will die in your sins
unless you believe that I am he" (v24).

"When you
have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he"
(v28. Other similar examples in John 18:5,8; Luke 22:70).

By
stating "I am he" in these three passages Jesus is
obviously identifying himself as the Messiah and saying that belief
of this fact is essential. If the translators had been consistent
they would also have translated John 8:58 as "Before Abraham
was, I am he", and no one would have thought it a reference to
the divine name. Jesus was not suggesting that he was God, but
claiming that he was the Messiah to whose day Abraham looked forward
in faith and hope."

"In the LXX (Greek translation
of the Hebrew Bible), at Exodus 3.14, Yahweh declares "ego eimi
o ohn". "I am he that exists". The addition of "o
ohn" is needed to reflect the fact that it is the word "ehyeh"
here in the original Hebrew as opposed to "ani hu". In John 8:58
Jesus only says "ego eimi" (I am he). On this basis it
isn't really fair to the text to force an unambiguous reference to
Exodus 3:14.......Instead anyone could say "I am' or "I am he"
without any allusion to a claim of divinity. Current Reebok adverts
quote stars saying "I am what I am". Another more Biblical
example of this is found in John 9:9 where the man born blind says "ego eimi". I am he. None of these individuals are claiming to be
the Exodus God."

"So the words used here are "ego
eimi" which simply means "I am' a means of designating
oneself. Not only "ego eimi" simply means "I am" as one would
use "I am" in their everyday talk in the English language, "ego
eimi" is no where near to the meaning of YHWH which is seen above
to mean The Living, Self Subsisting. So not only does this not sound
anything like the proposed pronunciation of the word YHWH, it does
not even carry the meaning of the word"

"Ego Eimi"
There are many instances in John's Gospel that uses the phrase "I
am." For example, YahoShua said in John 8:58. "Truly,
truly, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I
am."....Trinitarians like to blur the intention of this and
other statements in John by over-elucidating the obvious rendering of
the central point of YahoShua's proclamation as the Messiah by trying
to imply that YahoShua was using the personal Name of the Father to
indicate YahoShua's divinity. They fail to consider the other
passages by John that clearly make a distinction between the Father
and the Messiah (John 5:44, 17:3). It is important to realize that
nowhere in the Books of the Messiah does YahoShua use the phrase that
reveals the personal Name of the Father (the tetragramaton YHWH) to
Moshe. He simply states, "I am" meaning that it is the
Messiah that the Father has sanctified to do the Messianic work that
speaks. In John 8:58, YahoShua is acknowledging that his historic
Messianic idea existed before Abraham was born"

"Trinitarians
argue that this verse states that Jesus said he was the "I am"
(i.e., the Yahweh of the Old Testament), so he must be God. This is
just not the case. Saying "I am" does not make a person
God."

"Dare we suggest that it is only theological
bias which has perpetuated the "grammatical monstrosity"
created by the translators, when they TRANSLITERATED "egw eimi"
as "I AM" instead of TRANSLATING it as "I AM
[HE]"?"

"Properly viewed, Jesus has NOT claimed
the Divine name for Himself. Nor has He claimed to have been alive
before Abraham. Rather, the overall message of the chapter is that
the place of Jesus in the PROPHETIC PLAN of God, was fixed and spoken
of, long before the time of Abraham. That dates back to the Garden of
Eden, where both the Kingdom Of God, and the Future Saviour are first
mentioned. (Gen 1:26 & 3:15)"

"It has long been
claimed by Trinitarians that in John 8:58 Jesus used the words "I
AM" to appropriate the Divine Name to Himself, in order to claim
that He is God. However as we shall see, that is a misuse of the
passage which falls far short His real intention."

"What
Jesus is saying is that Abraham rejoiced at the day the Messiah would
come, and he "SAW" by FAITH, not literally in the flesh.
Now as you read John 8:57, notice that the Jews MISINTERPRET what
Jesus said about Abraham rejoicing to see (by faith) his (Jesus)
day.John 8:57 The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet
fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" Did Jesus claim to
have actually SEEN Abraham physically with his two eyes? No! Jesus
said nothing of the sort; all Jesus said was that Abraham rejoiced to
see the day the Messiah would arrive."

"John 8:58
(KJV) Yahshua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before
Abraham was, I am [he]. At this point John's expressly stated purpose
for writing the whole of his Gospel must be kept in mind. His aim was
that we should "believe that Yahshua is the Christ, the Son of
God" (John 20:31). The fact that in the Tanakh God speaks of
Himself as "I am [He]" does not lead us, as often thought,
to the conclusion that on Yahshua's lips "I am [he]" means
"I am God" in the Trinitarian sense. Yahshua's "I am
he" declarations in John can be satisfactorily explained as a
claim to be the Messiah. As such Yahshua presents himself as the
unique agent of the One God and empowered by the latter to act on His
behalf."

"The evidence before us (cited above) shows
that the famous phrase ego eimi means "I am the promised one,"
"the one in question." The blind man identifies himself by
saying "I am the person you are looking for", "I am
the one." In contexts where the Son of Man or the Messiah are
being discussed Yahshua claims to be "the one," i.e., Son
of Man, Messiah. In each case it is proper (as translators recognize)
to add the word "he" to the "I am." There is
every reason to be consistent and to supply "he" in John
8:58 also. Thus John 4:26, "I am" = "I am [he, the
Messiah]." In John 8:58 likewise Yahshua declares, "Before
Abraham was, I am [he, the appointed Messiah]."

The
"I am he" verses of John 8 are not referring to Jesus being
God.}

^{John 8:24 and John 8:28 and John 8:58 are all referring
to Jesus being the Christ.}

^{ego eimi is
translated as "I am he" in John 8:24 and John 8:28 and ego
eimi is also used in John 8:58}

^{John 8:24- if ye believe not
that I AM he (christ), ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:28-
When ye have lifted up the son of man, then shall ye know that I AM
he (christ)

John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I
say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM (he) (christ).}

^{ego
eimi is also used in these two "I am he" (christ)
verses}

^{John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that
Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell
us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee AM HE
(christ).

Mark 14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said unto
him, art thou THE CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I
AM (he):(christ)}

^{The blind man who was healed by
Jesus said "I am he" (ego eimi). Does that make him the
great "I am"? Of course not.}

^{John 9:8-9- The
neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was
blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged? Some said, This is
he: others [said], He is like him: [but] he said, I am [he]. (ego
eimi)}

^{John 8:58 twisted

John 8:58-59- Jesus said
unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
(he). Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself,
and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so
passed by.}

^{The trinitarians say that the Jews
wanted to stone Jesus because he claimed to be the great "I AM,"
which is false.}

^{Jesus never claimed to be the great "I
AM."

Jesus said that "Before Abraham
was, "I am (he)" which means that he was ordained to
be the Christ before Abraham was.}

^{John 8:58- Jesus said unto
them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am (he)
(i.e. the Christ)}

^{The Jews refused to believe
that Jesus was the Christ.}

^{John 8:37- I know that ye are
Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place
in you.

John 8:43- Why do ye not understand my speech? even
because ye cannot hear my word.

John 8:45-46- And because I
tell you the truth, ye believe me not....And if I say the truth, why
do ye not believe me?

John 8:49- I have not a devil;.....and
ye do dishonor me.

John 10:24-26- Then came the Jews round
about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If
thou be THE CHRIST, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you,
and ye believed not:.....But ye believe not, because ye are not of my
sheep,...}

^{Not only did the Jews reject Jesus as
the Christ but they threatened excommunication to anyone who believed
that Jesus was the Christ.}

^{John 9:22- The Jews had threatened
that if any man confessed that Jesus was THE CHRIST, he would be cast
out of the synagogue.

John 8:24 and John 8:28
and John 8:58 are all referring to the same thing, which is that
Jesus is the Christ.

John 8:24- if ye believe not that I AM he
(christ), ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:28- When ye have
lifted up the son of man, then shall ye know that I AM he
(christ)

John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I
say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM (he) (christ).}

^{Look
at the context of John 8. The Jews were disputing whether Jesus was
the Christ and not if Jesus was God.}

^{John 7:10- Jesus left
Galilee and went up to Jerusalum

John 7:14- Jesus enters the
temple and starts to teach}

^{The Jews disputed
whether Jesus was the Christ or not:}

^{John 7:25-27- Then said
some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?
But, lo, he speaketh boldly, and they say nothing unto him. Do the
rulers know indeed that this is the very Christ? Howbeit we know this
man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he
is.

John 7:31-32- And many of the people believed on him, and
said, When Christ cometh, will he do more miracles than these which
this man hath done? The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such
things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent
officers to take him.

John 7:40-43- Many of the people
therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the
Prophet. Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ
come out of Galilee? Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh
of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David
was? So there was a division among the people because of
him.}

^Timeline

^{John 8:2- Jesus returns early the next
morning to the temple to teach

John 8:24- Jesus declares that
they will die in their sins if they refuse to believe that he is the
Christ---("I am he" is referring to Jesus being the
Christ)

John 8:25- The Jews ask Jesus "Who art thou?"
and Jesus said the same thing that he has been telling them from the
beginning.

John 8:42- Jesus says that he came forth from God,
which means that he is not God.

John 8:58- Jesus says that
before Abraham was, I am (he) (the Christ)

8:59- The Jews took
up stones to kill Jesus but he escapes out of their hands.

John
9:1-7- Jesus heals the blind man after he left the temple

John
9:22- The Jews had threatened that if any man confessed that Jesus
was THE CHRIST, he would be cast out of the synagogue.

John
10:23-31--Jesus was walking in the temple and the Jews came round
bout him and said to him "If thou be THE CHRIST, tell us
plainly." Jesus answered them and said "I told you, and ye
believed me not"}

^{Jesus was referring to
himself as being the Christ and not to himself as being the great "I
AM."}

^{Read the whole book of John and you will see that
Jesus said that the Father is greater than he (John 10:29)-(John
14:28) and that the Father is the only true God (John 17:3) and that
the Father is his God (John 20:17)...Does that sound like Jesus would
ever claim to be God to you? Of course not.}

^{Jesus made it very
clear that he was not equal with the Father and that the Father alone
was God.}

^{John 17:3- And this is life eternal,
that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus
Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her,
touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my
brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your
Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Rev 3:12- Him that
overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall
go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which
is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY
GOD,...

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER
than all;...

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.}

^{To
say that Jesus claimed to be "I AM" (God) is to bear false
witness about Jesus. He made no such claim. Jesus was referring to
being the Christ and not to being God.}

^{The "I am"
(he) of John 8:58 is a shocking example of how the scriptures can be
twisted to mean something entirely different from what it really
means.}

^{Jesus is the Christ of God:}

^{Jesus
asked his apostles "who say ye that I am" and Peter told
Jesus that they all believed that he was THE CHRIST of God.}

^{Mark
8:29- And he said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter
answereth and saith unto him, Thou art THE CHRIST.

Matt
16:13-16- When Jesus came unto the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he
asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man
am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some,
Elias; and others Jeremias or one of the prophets. He said unto them,
But whom say ye that I AM? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou
art THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

Luke 9:20- He said
unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, THE
CHRIST of God.

Why did the Jews
want to stone Jesus? Was it because he claimed to be God (the great
"I AM?"). No, that was not the reason.}

^{The Jews
picked up stones to kill Jesus because they mistakenly thought he was
saying that he was alive before Abraham was born.}

^{John
8:52-59- Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a
devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man
keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than
our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom
makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is
nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he
is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I
should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I
know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my
day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou
art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said
unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
(he). Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself,
and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so
passed by.}

^{The Jews were confused when Jesus
told them "Your Father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he
saw it, and was glad" and "Before Abraham was, I am (he)."
They thought that Jesus was saying that he actually had seen Abraham
and that he was alive before Abraham was born, which is not was Jesus
was saying at all.}

^{All Jesus was saying was that he was
ordained to be the Christ before Abraham was born.}

^{The
trinitarians have taken the wrong conclusion drawn by the scribes and
pharisees, (which is that Jesus was alive before Abraham), and have
used it as though it were true doctrine.

Abraham
did not literally see Jesus.}

^{The Gospel was preached
beforehand to Abraham and that is how he saw Christ's day.

John
8:56- Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and
was glad.}

^{Galatians 3:5-9- He therefore that ministereth to
you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the
works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Even as Abraham
believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye
therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of
Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the
heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be
of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Gal 3:13-29-
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse
for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a
tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through
Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through
faith.Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a
man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or
addeth thereto.Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He
saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed,
which is Christ. And this I say, that the covenant, that was
confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred
and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the
promise of none effect. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is
no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.Wherefore
then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till
the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was
ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.Now a mediator is not a
mediator of one, but God is one.Is the law then against the promises
of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could
have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.But
the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith
of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.But before faith
came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should
afterwards be revealed.Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to
bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after
that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.For ye are
all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.For as many of you
as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.There is neither
Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male
nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be
Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the
promise.}

^{The trinitarians teach that Jesus
claimed to exist before Abraham was born, but he never claimed any
such thing.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus claimed to
be alive before Abraham was born"

"Jesus said he was
alive before Abraham"

"Jesus also claimed to exist
even before Abraham, who had died many years before"

"Jesus
was telling them that He was alive long before Abraham ever
existed."

"Jesus claims that He existed before
Abraham existed"

"Jesus then said he had existed
before Abraham. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am."}

^{Wrong: Jesus did
not claim that he existed before Abraham.}

^{It was the scribes
and pharisees who came up with that idea.}

^{The scribes and
pharisees wrongly assumed that Jesus said that he was alive before
Abraham.}

^{Jesus never said that he existed before
Abraham.}

^{The trinitarian version of John 8:58 is built upon
what the scribes and pharisees assumed Jesus meant and not on what
Jesus actually meant.}

^{The true context of John
8:58 is that Jesus was telling the scribes and pharisees that before
Abraham was, I am (he) (i.e. the Christ).

John
8:24- if ye believe not that I am he (christ), ye shall die in your
sins.

1John 5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ
is born of God:..

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye
might believe that Jesus is the Christ ,...

John 8:28- When ye
have lifted up the son of man, then shall ye know that I am he
(christ)

John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I
say unto you, before Abraham was, I am (he) (christ).

Mark
14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said unto him, art thou THE
CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I am:..

John
4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which
is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus
saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

Mark
8:29- And he said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter
answereth and saith unto him, Thou art THE CHRIST.

Matt
16:13-16- When Jesus came unto the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he
asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man
am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some,
Elias; and others Jeremias or one of the prophets. He said unto them,
But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou
art THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God.

Luke 9:20- He said
unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, THE
CHRIST of God.}

^{JESUS WAS FOREORDAINED}

^{Jesus
was slain from the foundation of the world. Does that mean he was
actually crucified at the foundation of the world? Of course
not.}

^{Rev 13:8 is saying the same thing as 1Pet 1:19-20 and
John 1:1 and John 8:58, which is that Jesus was ordained before the
foundation of the world to be the Christ.

John
1:1- In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and
the word was God.

John 8:58- Before Abraham was, I am
(he).(Christ)

1Pet 1:19-20- But with the precious blood of
CHRIST, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was
FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, but was manifest in
these last times for you,...

Rev 13:8- And all that dwell upon
the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book
of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the
world.

The "I AM"
Deception}

^{John 8:58 is being used in a false manner. Jesus did
not claim that he was alive before Abraham was born nor did he claim
to be the "I AM."}

^{Jesus was saying that he was
ordained to be the Christ before Abraham was born and not that he was
actually alive before Abraham was born.}

^{The "I am"
of John 8:58 is being used out of context by the trinitarians.}

^{The
"I am (he)" is referring to Jesus being the
Christ.

John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am (he) (i.e. the
Christ).

Mark 14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said unto
him, art thou THE CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I
am:..

John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that
Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell
us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am
he.

JOHN 8:24

John 8:24 is
also being used in a false manner.}

^{John 8:24- if ye believe
not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

The
trinitarians teach that John 8:24 is saying that we have to believe
that Jesus is God (I AM) or we will die in our sins, which is not the
truth.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"So what Jesus is
saying in John 8:24 is that He is *I AM,* and if you don't believe
and trust in that He is *I AM* [Eternal Theos-God] you will die in
your sins!"

"Jesus utters a very solemn warning when
he says, "If ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins." John 8:24. Here he claims that unless we own his
essential deity, we are without a saviour-we shall die
unforgiven."

"Jesus declared that belief in his
deity was absolutely essential for salvation. He said, `unless you
believe that I AM, you will die in your sins' (John 8:24).

"
John 8:24. "I told you that you would die in your sins; if you
do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins."....
The Lord Jesus is again claiming to be God."

" in
John 8:24. "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your
sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your
sins." He was saying you cannot be saved unless you recognize
and believe that Jesus Christ is God."

"Jesus said
in John 8:24 `I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your
sins; for unless you believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.
Jesus said unless we believe that he is Jehovah God in the flesh, we
cannot be saved."}

^{WRONG- Jesus did not say
that we have to believe that he is God to be saved.}

^{The "I
am he" of John 8:24 does not refer to Jesus being God, but "I
am he" refers to Jesus being the Christ.

The
scriptures do not teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to
be saved.}

^{The scriptures teach that we have to believe that
Jesus is the Christ to be saved.

1John 5:1-
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:..

John
20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ ,...}

^{The scriptures teach that salvation
hinges on us believing that Jesus is the Christ.}

^{John 8:24
does not teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to obtain
salvation.

John 8:24 teaches that we have to believe that
Jesus is THE CHRIST or we will die in our sins.}

^{John
8:24- if ye believe not that I am he (christ), ye shall die in your
sins.

1John 5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ
is born of God:..

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye
might believe that Jesus is the Christ ,...}

^{1John
5:1 and John 20:31 puts John 8:24 into context, which is that we have
to believe that Jesus is THE CHRIST to be saved.}

^{John 20:31
states that the things that were written in the Gospel of John were
written so that we might believe that Jesus is the Christ. What a
powerful testimony against those who teach that we have to believe
that Jesus is God to be saved.}

^{Jesus said that
he was the Christ}

^{Mark 14:61-62- Again the high priest, and
said unto him, art thou THE CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus
said, I am:..

John 4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know
that Messiah cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will
tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am
he.}

^{"Christ" does not mean
"God"

"Christ" means "the anointed
one"}

^{Jesus is the Christ of God

Luke
9:20- whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, the CHRIST OF
GOD.

Mark 8:29- And he said unto them, But whom say ye that I
am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art THE
CHRIST.

Matt 16:13-16- When Jesus came unto the coasts of
Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say
that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John
the Baptist: some, Elias; and others Jeremias or one of the prophets.
He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter
answered and said, Thou art THE CHRIST, the Son of the living
God.}

^{I AM = the Christ}

^{John 4:25-26- The
woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called
CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto
her, I that speak unto thee AM he.}

^{John 8:24- if ye believe
not that I AM he (christ), ye shall die in your sins.}

^{John
8:28- When ye have lifted up the son of man, then shall ye know that
I AM he (christ)}

^{John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM (he)
(christ).}

^{Mark 14:61-62- Again the high priest, and said
unto him, art thou THE CHRIST, the son of the blessed? And Jesus
said, I AM:..

The scribes and
pharisees misunderstood Jesus' words}

^{John 8 56-58- Your Father
Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then
said the Jews unto him, thou art not yet 50 years old, and hast thou
seen Abraham. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
before Abraham was, I am (he).}

^{The scribes and
pharisees thought that Jesus said that he had literally seen Abraham,
but Jesus said no such thing.

Jesus never said that he
was alive before Abraham was born.}

^{Jesus
was saying that he was foreordained to be the Christ before Abraham
was.}

^JOHN
1:1

^{John 1:1- In the beginning was the word, and the word was
with God, and the word was God.

The trinitarians
claim that the Apostle John taught that Jesus was God, which he never
did.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The apostle John says
that Christ "was God" (John 1:1)."

"The
apostle John taught us that Jesus, the word, was not only with God
since the beginning, but was God"

"The apostle John
wrote that Jesus was God"

"The apostle John declares
Jesus to be the creator (John 1:3) and God (John 1:1)."}

^{WRONG-
The apostle John did not teach that Jesus was God.}

^{The Apostle
John taught that Jesus was the Son of God and that Jesus was
created.

1John 3:8- For this purpose THE SON OF
GOD was manifested,...

1John 4:15- Whosoever shall confess
that Jesus is THE SON OF GOD,....

1John 5:5- Who is he that
overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is THE SON OF
GOD?

1John 5:20- we know that THE SON OF GOD is come,...

John
20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, THE SON OF GOD;...}

^{The Apostle John
taught that Jesus was created:}

^{John 1:14- And the word was
made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory
as of the only BEGOTTEN (created) of the Father,)

John 1:18-
No man hath seen God at any time; the only BEGOTTEN (created) Son,
which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1John
4:9- God sent his only BEGOTTEN (created) Son into the world, that we
might live through him.}

^{Also in the Gospel of
John we see Jesus teaching that the Father is greater than he and
that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is his
God.}

^{John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER
than all;...

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John
17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the
Father) the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast
sent.

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am
not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto
them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and
your God.

What does John 1:1
mean?}

^{John 1:1 is saying the same thing as 1Pet 1:19-20
and Rev 13:8 and John 8:58, which is that Jesus was ordained before
the foundation of the world to be the Christ.

John
1:1- In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and
the word was God.

John 8:58- Before Abraham was, I am
(he).(Christ)

1Pet 1:19-20- But with the precious blood of
CHRIST, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was
FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, but was manifest in
these last times for you,...

Rev 13:8- And all that dwell upon
the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book
of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.}

^{WE
DO NOT HAVE TWO GODS}

^{John 1:1- In the beginning was the word,
and the word was with God, and the word was God.

The
trinitarian interpretation of John 1:1 makes no sense, for how is it
possible that Jesus was God if he was with God?.......We do not have
two Gods.}

^{If Jesus was with God and Jesus was God, then God
was with God, which adds up to two Gods.}

^{Quotes

"Secondly,
there is the question of how Jesus, if that is who the Word is, could
be both "with God" and be "God" simultaneously!
If we speak of a person being "with Joe," then the person
of whom we speak could not be Joe himself. The only way he could be
Joe himself, would be if there were two Joe's. The Trinitarian,
however, claims that Jesus was with God and was God, and yet there
are not two Gods, but there is one God. This is a blatant
contradiction in terms."

"Why is it wrong to
interpret the "Word" in John 1:1 as Christ, pre-existing in
the beginning as God? The verse clearly states that ""the
Word was with God."" So if, aside from God, the "Word
" were another God, there would be two Gods: one God with
another God. One cannot accept the interpretation without doing
violence to the biblical teaching on the absolute oneness of
God."

"The "Word", which was about Christ
is said to be "in the beginning" and "with God"
because Christ was in the mind of God before the creation of the
world. He was not yet a being then but only a thought in the mind of
God. The "Word" in John 1:1 was not a being existing on its
own, independent of God, but was simply a thought or a word in the
mind of God. Thus, the verse states that "the Word was with
God," being in the mind of God."

"Jesus was the
Purpose of God revealed in the flesh, being the Lamb of God slain
from the foundation of the world. He had been preached to Eve and
Abraham as the seed, to Moses as the Prophet, to all Israel as
Immanuel and Messiah, and to Israel (at His coming) as the Son of
God, the Lamb of God, and the Saviour of the World. There is no
evidence in John 1 that Jesus literally "was God," that He
literally pre-existed, or that the Word of God is literally a person.
All of this is derived from a massacre of logic and simple grammar."}

^{John
20:28 twisted}

^{John
20:28- And Thomas answered and said unto him, my Lord and my God.}

^{The trinitarians say that John 20:28 proves that Jesus is God, but their
interpretation of this verse is wrong.}

^{Thomas
was not referring to Jesus when he said, "and my God."}

^{Thomas
was referring to the Father when he said, "and my God."}

^{All
of Jesus' disciples knew that the Father was the God of Jesus, so it
is impossible that any of them would have addressed Jesus as "my
God."}

^{Read
John 20:17-18. Jesus told Mary that he was ascending to his God and
told her to tell his disciples that he was ascending to the Father
who is his God.}

^{John
20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended
to my Father: but}^{go
to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your
Father; and to MY GOD}^{,
and your God.}

^{The
apostle Peter believed and taught that the Father is the God of the
Lord Jesus Christ:}

^{1Pet
1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...}

^{The
apostle Paul believed and taught that the Father is the God of the
Lord Jesus Christ:}

^{Eph
1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...}

^{2Cor
11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...}

^{None
of Jesus' disciples believed that he was God, so there is no way that
Thomas would have called Jesus "my God."}

^{All
of the disciples believed that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God.}

^{John
6:69- And we (the apostles) believe and are sure that thou art that
CHRIST, the Son of the living God.}

^{Jesus
asked his disciples "whom say that I am."}

^{Peter
did not tell Jesus that he was God, but he told Jesus that he was the
Christ, the son of God.}

^{Matt
16:15-16- He(Jesus) saith unto them(the apostles), But whom say ye
that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, thou art the CHRIST,
the Son of the living God.}

^{Luke
9:20- whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, the CHRIST OF GOD.}

^{Martha
did not believe that Jesus was God, but she believed that he was the
CHRIST, the Son of God:}

^{John
11:27- She(Martha) unto him(Jesus), yea, Lord: I believe that thou
art the CHRIST, the Son of God, which should come into the world.}

^{Jesus
did not tell people that he was God, but he told people that he was
the CHRIST, the Son of God:}

^{Mark
14:61-62- Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, art
thou the CHRIST, the Son of the blessed? And Jesus said, I am:...}

^{John
4:25-26- The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which
is called CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus
saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he (the Christ).}

^{The
Bible does not teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to be
saved.}

^{The
Bible teaches that we have to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the
Son of God, to be saved:}

^{1John
5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:..}

^{John
20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God;...}

^{Also,
look at the whole book of John and not just one verse.}

^{The
scriptural evidence is overwhelming that the Father alone is God.}

^{1.
The Father is greater than Jesus (John 10:29)-(John 14:28)}

^{2.
The Father is the only true God (John 17:3)}

^{3.
The Father is the God of Jesus (John 20:17)}

^{4.
The Father begat (created) Jesus (John 1:14)-(John 1:18)-(John 3:18)}

^{The trinitarians offer verses like John 20:28, John 1:1 and John 8:58 and
John 10:30 as proof that Jesus is God, but those verses do not teach
that Jesus is God.}

^{The
scriptures teach that the Father is God alone:}

^{John
17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the
Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.}

^{1Cor
8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,..}

^{Eph
4:6- ONE God and Father of all,..}

^{1Tim
2:5- there is ONE God, and one mediator between God and men, the man
Christ Jesus;..}

^Quotes

^{"
Earlier in this chapter, Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my
Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God." (vs. 17).
Since Jesus was to ascend to his God, then clearly he was not himself
"Very God".}

^{The
Ascension}

^{Acts
1:9-11- And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he
was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while
they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men
stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,
why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken
up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen
him go into heaven.}

^{The
trinitarian version of the ascension is very different than the
biblical version of the ascension.}

^{1.
Biblical version: Jesus ascended as a man only unto his God (the
Father).}

^{Jesus
was a man only:}

^{Phil
2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form
of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in
fashion AS A MAN,....}

^{Heb
2:14- Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and
blood, he(Jesus) also himself likewise took part of the same;...}

^{Heb
10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for
ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...}

^{John
8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the
truth,...}

^{1Tim
2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN
Christ Jesus;...}

^{1Cor
15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection
of the dead.}

^{John
15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN
did,....}

^{Acts
17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world
in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...}

^{Acts
2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN
approved of God.....}

^{Heb
7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an
unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to
the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to
make intercession for them.}

^{Acts
17:31- Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge
the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;....}

^{Jesus
ascended unto the Father who is his God:}

^{John
20:17- Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto
him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me
not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren,
and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to
my God, and your God.}

^{2.
Trinitarian version: Jesus was a "God-man" who ascended
only in his "human" nature.}

^{The
trinitarians teach that Jesus had two natures (God-man):}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"Jesus
has two distinct natures: divine and human."}

^{"He
is fully God and fully man; thus, He has two natures: God and man."}

^{"he
has two natures-the divine nature and a human nature-he is both God
and man."}

^{The
trinitarians teach that Jesus ascended only in his "human"
nature}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"But
that ascension was realized only in His human nature"}

^{"Of
the ascension we confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, in His human
nature, departed from the earth and went to heaven."}

^{"In
His human nature He rose from the tomb and ascended into heaven,"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus did not have two parts with only one part ascending into
heaven.}

^{When
Jesus ascended, all of him ascended.}

^{We
do not have two Jesus'...the Jesus who ascended and the Jesus who did
not ascend.}

^{Jesus
was only one person and all of that one person ascended to his God
(the Father).}

^{John
20:17- Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto
him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me
not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren,
and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to
my God, and your God.}

^Quotes

^{"According
to the scriptures, does Jesus Christ, right now, since his
resurrection from the dead, have a God? Jesus Christ himself answered
this question shortly after his resurrection. In John 20 we have the
record of Jesus' appearance to Mary after his resurrection.....}

^{John
20:11-17- But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she
wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two
angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the
feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.And they say unto her, Woman,
why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away
my LORD, and I know not where they have laid him. And when she had
thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew
not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?
whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto
him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid
him, and I will take him away. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned
herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus
saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father; and to my God, and your God.}

^{Jesus
identified to Mary in no uncertain terms who he was about to ascend
to: He was ascending to his Father and his God. But Jesus did more
here; he clarified forever the relationship between his God and our
God. According to Jesus Christ after his resurrection, they are one
and the same. His Father is our Father, and his God is our God.
Nothing could be clearer. This statement is completely consistent
with the way Jesus spoke of his God and his Father throughout his
earthly ministry. In John 17:3, Jesus identified his Father as the
only true God. John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might
know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."}

^{The
True Resurrection Of Christ}

^{The
trinitarians teach that a "God-man" was resurrected from
the dead, which is not true.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"Jesus,
the God-man, only died once and then was resurrected ..."}

^{"Jesus
the God-Man is resurrected"}

^{"Being
Resurrected from the Dead. This mysterious God-man, who was
crucified, was resur-. rected from the dead"}

^{"With
the Resurrection of the God-Man,"}

^{"the
god-man was resurrected from the dead,"}

^{"the
God-man came and lived, died on a. cross, but He resurrected from the
dead. ..."}

^{"After
a few days, this god-man crawls out from the tomb"}

^{"Christ,
the God-man died and rose again for you. ..."}

^{WRONG-
Jesus was not resurrected as a "God-man," but he was
resurrected as a man only with a glorified body.}

^{The
trinitarians are teaching a false resurrection. They teach that Jesus
was a "God-man" and that only part of him was resurrected,
which is not what the scriptures teach.}

^{All
of Jesus was resurrected. He did not have two parts with only one
part of him being resurrected.}

^{The
true resurrection of Christ has all of Jesus being resurrected.}

^{Paul
wrote that our bodies will be changed at the resurrection to be just
like the glorified body that Jesus now has, which is strong proof
that Jesus does not have a "God-man" body.}

^{If
jesus has a "God-man" body, then how can we be changed to
be like unto his body? Phil 3:20-21 makes no sense if Jesus has a
"God-man" body.}

^{Philippians
3:20-21- For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look
for the saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile
body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,....}

^{The
trinitarians teach that a "God-man" was resurrected, but if
you ask them to explain how God can die and be resurrected, they will
tell you that the "God" part did not die on the cross and
that the "God" part was not resurrected.}

^{So,
what the trinitarians are really teaching is that it was only part of
Jesus that died and was resurrected, which is absurd.}

^{How
can only part of a person die?}

^{When
Jesus died on the cross, all of him died.}

^{Matt
27:50- Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up
the spirit.}

^{Luke
23:46- And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father,
into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up
the spirit.}

^{John
19:30- When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is
finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the spirit (died).}

^{The
trinitarians teach that only part of Jesus died:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"It
was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."}

^{"the
divine part of Jesus did not die, as God does not die"}

^{"He
did not die according to his divine nature, but according to his
human nature."}

^{"The
death of Christ was only his human nature"}

^{"The
human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."}

^{The
trinitarians have split Jesus into two persons.... the human Jesus
who died and the divine Jesus who did not die.}

^{We
do not have the "divine Jesus" and the "human Jesus,"
but we have only one Jesus....the MAN Christ Jesus who died for our
sins!}

^{1Tim
2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God
and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,..}

^{The
trinitarians teach that Jesus was resurrected as a "God-man,"
but they also teach that Jesus was resurrected only in his "human"
nature.}

^{Trinitarian
quotes}

^{"In
His human nature He rose from the tomb and ascended into heaven,"}

^{"The
God/Man, Jesus was killed on the cross but the divine nature of Jesus
resurrected the human nature of Jesus after three days in the tomb."}

^{"When
Jesus died, the human nature died, not the divine. Likewise, when
Jesus rose from the dead, it is the physical body that was raised in
a glorified state, not the divine nature."}

^{"The
divine nature of Christ never perished and never ceased being part of
the Trinity, but the divine nature was not raised. It is only the
physical nature that died and was resurrected,"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus did not have two parts with only one part being resurrected
from the dead.}

^{We
do not have two Jesus'.... the Jesus who was resurrected and the
Jesus who was not resurrected.}

^{We
have only ONE Jesus and all of that ONE Jesus was resurrected from
the dead.}

^{Look
at these scripture verses. They were written long after Jesus was
resurrected.}

^{The
resurrected Jesus is described as a MAN and not as a "God-man."}

^{1Tim
2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God
and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...}

^{The
resurrection of the dead came by the MAN Jesus and not the "God-man"
Jesus:}

^{1Cor
15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection
of the dead.}

^{Jesus
paid for our sins as a MAN and he was resurrected from the dead as a
MAN and he sits at the right hand of God as a MAN.}

^{Heb
10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for
ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..}

^{It
was a MAN who died on the cross for our sins and not a "God-man":}

^{Phil
2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and
became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.}

^{By
a man (adam) came death and by a MAN (Jesus) came the atonement:}

^{Rom
5:11-15- we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we
have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man (adam) sin
entered into the world, and death by sin;........For if through the
offence of one (adam) many be dead, much more the grace of God, and
the gift by grace, which is by one MAN, Jesus Christ,...}

^{1Cor
15:21- For since by man (adam) came death, by MAN (Jesus) came also
the resurrection of the dead.}

^{It
was the MAN Jesus who made reconcilliation for the sins of the
people:}

^{Heb
2:17- 3:3- Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like
unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high
priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconcilliation for the
sins of the people.......For this MAN was counted worthy of more
glory than moses,....}

^{FALSE
PLAN FOR SALVATION}

^{The trinitarians teach that we must believe
that Jesus is God to have salvation, which is a false plan for
salvation}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"you must confess
the deity of Christ to be saved"

"If you don't
believe that Jesus is God--you are not a christian"

"If
we don't believe in Christ's deity, we are outside Christ and outside
salvation."

"To be saved, one must believe that
Jesus Christ is God. Therefore, those who deny his deity are not
saved"

"Believing that Jesus Christ is God is
essential for salvation"

"There is no salvation for
those who deny the deity of Christ."

"To be saved,
one must believe that Jesus Christ is God."

"Did you
know that believing in Jesus' deity is necessary for your salvation?
If you do not believe that Jesus is God than you cannot be
saved!"

"Belief in the deity of Jesus is required to
spend eternity in heaven."

"The deity of Christ is
required to procure salvation."}

^{WRONG: It
is not a requirement to believe that Jesus is God to procure
salvation.}

^{The trinitarians are teaching a falsehood.

The
biblical plan for salvation is that we have to believe that Jesus is
the Christ, the Son of God, to be saved.}

^{John 20:31- But these
are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ , the Son
of God;...}

^{We do not have to believe that Jesus
is God to be saved.}

^{The new testament teaches that we have to
believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, to be
saved.

1John 4:15- Whosoever shall confess that
Jesus is the son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John
3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
(created) son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have everlasting life.

John 20:31- But these are written, that
ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ , the Son of God;...

1John
5:1- Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of
God.

Acts 16:31- Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou
shalt be saved.

Acts 10:43- whosoever believeth in Christ
shall receive remission of sins.}

^{The apostle
Paul taught what is required to be saved and he did not teach that we
to believe that Jesus is God to be saved.}

^{Rom 10:9-13- if thou
shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in
thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with
the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith,
whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no
difference between the jew and the greek: for the same Lord over all
is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon
the name of the Lord shall be saved.}

^{The reason
that Paul did not teach that we have to believe that Jesus is God to
be saved is because Jesus is not God.

Paul
taught that the Father alone is God:}

^{1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is
there but one God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God
and Father of all, who is above all,..}

^{Paul
taught that the Father is the God of Jesus:}

^{The teaching that Jesus pre-existed is false.}

^{Jesus
had a beginning!

Jesus came into existence when
the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, came upon Mary and conceived
(created) Jesus in her womb.}

^{Luke 1:34-35- Then said Mary unto
the angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel
answered and said unto her, the Holy Spirit (the Father) shall come
upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be
called the Son of God.

Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt
conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
Jesus.

Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Christ was on this wise:
when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came
together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit (the
Father).

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Spirit (the Father).}

^{Jesus was begotten
(created) by the Father}

^{John 1:14- and we beheld his glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,..

John 1:18-
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in
the bosom of the Father,...

John 3:16- For God so loved the
world, that he gave his only begotten Son,...

1John 4:9- God
sent his only begotten Son into the world,....}

^{The
trinitarians teach that Jesus was alive before he was conceived,
which is not the truth.}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus
existed as God before his conception on earth"

"Jesus
Christ existed before his birth"

"Jesus existed
before he was born"

"Jesus has no beginning"

"Jesus
has always existed"

"Jesus existed even before his
human conception"

"Jesus pre-existed as God. That is
he was God before he was born"

"Jesus existed before
he was born on earth"}

^{Wrong: Jesus did not
exist before he was conceived.}

^{Jesus came into existence when
he was conceived in Mary's womb.

A being that
already exists cannot be conceived.}

^{"Conceived"
means to be brought into existence.

Webster's
dictionary:}

^{Conceive- To become pregnant with (young) To cause
to begin: Originate

Originate- Begin; To give an origin or
beginning to; produce as new. To have origin; begin to exist

Origin-
The first existence or beginning; birth

Begin- To come into
existence

Conception- The state of being conceived:
Beginning

Creation- The act of creating or causing to
exist}

^{Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb and not
incarnated in Mary's womb.}

^{Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt
conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
JESUS.

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Spirit (the Father).

The
trinitarians teach that Jesus had no beginning and they also teach
that Jesus did have a beginning.

1. The
trinitarians teach that Jesus had no beginning:}

^{Trinitarian
quotes

"Jesus has no beginning"

"Jesus
has always existed"

"Jesus is eternal and
uncreated"

"Jesus is also, without
beginning!"}

^{2. The trinitarians teach that
Jesus had a beginning:}

^{Trinitarian quotes

"The
Spirit of Jesus existed from all eternity because He is God Himself.
However, the humanity of Jesus did not exist before the Incarnation,
except as a plan in the mind of God."

"Jesus the man
was born on earth and had a beginning."

"Jesus in
His Humanity definitely did not pre-exist"

"As a
man, Jesus had a beginning."

"Jesus is both human
and divine, and it is the divine side of his nature that pre-existed
before Jesus' birth."

"Christ's human nature was
born by Mary, but his divine nature always existed"}

^{Wrong:
Jesus did not both have a beginning and not have a beginning.}

^{Jesus
would be two persons if that scenario were true. One person cannot
both have a beginning and not have a beginning.}

^{So, according
to the trinitarians, one part of Jesus existed before the other part.
That is crazy theology.

We do not have two
Jesus'......the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a
beginning.}

^{We have only one Jesus and the one Jesus came into
existence when he was begotten (created) by the Father in Mary's
womb.}

^{Luke 1:34-35- Then said Mary unto the
angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel
answered and said unto her, the Holy Spirit (the Father) shall come
upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be
called the Son of God.

Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt
conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name
Jesus.

Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Christ was on this wise:
when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came
together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit (the
Father).

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Spirit (the Father).

John 1:14- and we beheld his glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,..

John 1:18-
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in
the bosom of the Father,...}

JESUS DIED AS A MAN AND NOT AS A "HUMAN NATURE"

The trinitarians teach that Jesus has two natures (God-man) and that he died only in his "human" nature.

Trinitarian quotes

"It was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."

"Only Jesus' human nature died on on the cross."

"Christ's divinity did not DIE on the cross and that ONLY His humanity died on the cross."

"As Jesus hung on the cross He was, in His human nature, the true sin-offering for His people, and as such, it was necessary that He suffer alone. God can have no association whatever with sin"

"When Jesus died, the human nature died, not the divine."

"the divine part of Jesus did not die, as God does not die"

"The human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."

"He did not die according to his divine nature, but according to his human nature."

"Only the human person of Jesus, not the divine person of Jesus, died on the cross"

"The death of Christ was only his human nature"

WRONG: Jesus did not die as a "human" nature with a "God" nature that didn't die.

We do not have two Jesus'...the human Jesus who died on the cross and the divine Jesus who didn't die on the cross.

Jesus is only one person (a man) and all of the one Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

Matt 27:50- Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the spirit

.Luke 23:46- And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the spirit.

John 19:30- When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the spirit (died).

John 19:33-34- But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Jesus died as a man without a "God" nature.

The two-natures doctrine is a false teaching that distorts Jesus and his death on the cross

.

Jesus the "human nature" did not die on the cross.

Jesus the man died on the cross for our sins and not Jesus the "human nature."

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a reansom for all,...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

The scriptures teach that it was the MAN Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all and not the "human" nature of Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all.

The trinitarians have two Jesus'.... the divine Jesus and the human Jesus.

Trinitarian quotes

"The human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."

"Only the human person of Jesus, not the divine person of Jesus, died on the cross"

There is not one verse that teaches that Jesus had two natures.

The two-natures doctrine is totally unscriptural.

The scriptures teach only of the MAN Christ Jesus.

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 2:14- Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he(Jesus) also himself likewise took part of the same;...

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

John 8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the truth,..

. 1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

John 15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN did,....

Acts 17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Acts 17:31- Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;....

The scripture verses above are describing the whole Jesus and not just the "human" nature of Jesus who also has a "God" nature.

Jesus does not have a "God" nature.

When Jesus said that the Father is greater than he (John 14:28) and that the Father is the only true God (John 17:3) and that the Father is his God (John 20:17) and that only the Father knows the time of his return (Matt 24:36), he was not just talking according to his "human" nature like the trinitarians claim.

The whole Jesus said those things and not just part of him.

We have only ONE Jesus who said that the Father is greater than he and that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is his God.

We do not have two Jesus'...the "human" nature who said those things and the "God" nature who didn't say those things.

When the scriptures teach that it was the MAN Christ Jesus who died for our sins, it means exactly that....nothing more and nothing less.

There is no hidden meaning about the verses below. They clearly teach that Jesus atoned for our sins as a MAN only, because that is what he was...a MAN only.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a reansom for all,...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and he was a man only.

Being a man only does not negate in the least what Jesus did on the cross.

Jesus was a sinless man who died for our sins:

1 Peter 2:22 -Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth.

1 John 3:5- And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Hebrews 4:15- For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21- For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew not sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1pet 1:19- But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:...

The MAN Christ Jesus is the savior of the world

Luke 2:11- For unto you is born this day in the city of David a saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

1John 4:14- And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the son to be the saviour of the world.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a reansom for all,...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

1Cor 15:3- Christ (the MAN Christ Jesus) died for our sins.

John 1:29- Behold the lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Rev 1:5- Jesus loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

Col 1:14- we have redemption through the blood of Christ, even the forgiveness of sins.

Isa 53:5- he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:12- he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

The MAN Christ Jesus is the reconciliation for our sins and not the "God-man" Christ Jesus.

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a reansom for all,...

1John 2:2- Jesus (the man) is the reconciliation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Pet 2:24- Jesus (the man) bared our sins in his own body on the cross, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

The bible is very specific that it was the MAN Christ Jesus who atoned for our sins.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus must be God to atone for sins, but they cannot prove it by the word of God.

The bible is the word of God the Father.

2Tim 16-17- All scripture is given by inspiration of God (the Father), and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The doctrines that Jesus taught were given to him by the Father who alone is God.

The Father gave Jesus the words to speak unto people:

John 7:16-17- My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 14:24- the word which ye hear is not mine, but THE FATHER'S which sent me.

John 14:10- the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but THE FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 15:15- for all things that I have heard of MY FATHER I have made known unto you.

John 17:8- For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;...

John 3:34- For he whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of God:...

John 12:49- For I have not spoken of myself; but THE FATHER which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Deut 18:18- I (the Father) will raise them up a prophet (Jesus) from among their brethren like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

JESUS DID NOT RAISE HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD

The trinitarians teach that Jesus raised himself from the dead.

Trinitarian quotes

"According to his divine nature, Christ raised himself from the dead."

"The God/Man, Jesus was killed on the cross but the divine nature of Jesus resurrected the human nature of Jesus after three days in the tomb."

"Jesus died willingly and He raised Himself from the dead

"God the Son raised Himself from the dead"

So, according to the trinitarians, the "God" part of Jesus raised up the "man" part of Jesus from the dead. That is craziness.

Jesus would be two persons if he had two parts with one of the parts raising the other part from the dead. One person cannot be both dead and the raiser of the dead.

Jesus did not have a "God" side that stood on the sidelines and watched his "man" side die on the cross.

When Jesus died, all of him died and not just part of him.

If part of Jesus didn't die, then Jesus did not really die on the cross

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All of Jesus had to die in order for the new testament to take effect:

Heb 9:16-17- For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

The trinitarians teach that only part of Jesus died on the cross:

Trinitarian quotes

"It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But we see that Jesus has two natures, not one. It was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."

"Christ did not die according to His Divine nature"

"The death of Christ was only his human nature"

"The human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."

"Deity did not die when humanity died on the cross"

WRONG: Jesus did not die only in his "man" side and was raised up from the dead by his "God" side. That is totally unscriptural.

Jesus did not have a "God" side!

Jesus was only one person...A MAN:

John 8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the truth,...

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

John 15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN did,....

Acts 17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

.Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....

Jesus did not raise himself up from the dead.

The scriptures teach that the Father alone raised up Jesus from the dead

Gal 1:1- Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God THE FATHER, who raised him from the dead;)

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of THE FATHER,..

Eph 1:17-20- That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, THE FATHER of glory,......which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead,..

The Father is the God of Jesus and he alone raised him from the dead:

Eph 1:17-20- That THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he (the Father) wrought in Christ, when he (the Father) RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,...

Rom 6:4- Christ was raised up from the dead by THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.

The scriptures are very clear that it was the Father who raised Jesus from the dead.

To teach that Jesus raised himself from the dead is to teach contrary to the scriptures.

Quotes

"The Bible plainly tells us that it was the God and Father of Jesus, that raised Jesus from the dead. -- Acts 2:24,32,26; 3:15; 4:10; 10:40; 13:30,33,37; 17:31; Romans 4:24; 8:11; 10:9; 1 Corinthians 6:14; 15:15; Galatians 1:1; Colossians 2:11,12; 1 Thessalonians 1:9,10; 1 Peter 1:21; 3:18......Some of our trinitarian neighbors tell us that it was the "divine nature" of Jesus that raised his "human nature" from the dead. We have no reason to add all of this conjecture to Bible. There is no scripture that says that Jesus raised himself from the dead, nor is there any scripture that says that Jesus had two planes of being (a spirit being and a human being -- two sentient beings, two persons?) present in one divine person (one sentient [omniscient] being/person?).....Thus we see that there is nothing in the Bible that says that Jesus raised himself from the dead."

"The Letters of Paul The Pauline corpus accents that it is the Father who raised Jesus from the dead,"

"God the Father raised Jesus from the dead (Acts 2:24; Ephesians 1:17-20)"

"Acts 3:15 & 26 with Galatians 1:1, God the Father raised up Jesus from the dead."

"If Jesus had claimed that He would raise Himself from the dead, He would have been in direct contradiction of Himself, for He said, I can of mine own self do nothing. (John 5:30) He would also have contradicted at least 30 verses in the New Testament which say that He was raised from the dead by His Father."

"Christ could not, and did not, raise Himself from the dead, or else He wouldn't have been dead to begin with."

Jesus was Lower Than The Angels

Jesus was lower than the angels, which means that he was not God.

God is above all:

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,...

Jesus was not above all, but he was lower than the angels:

Heb 2:7- Thou madest him a little lower than the angels;..

Heb 2:9- But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,...

Ps 8:5- For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels,..

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How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus could have been God since he was lower than the angels?

The trinitarians teach that Jesus had two natures and that the God part was higher than the angels and the man part was lower than the angels.

Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus,.... in His human nature "a little lower than the angels";

"he could be "lower than the angels" according to his human nature,"

"Jesus in His humanity was put lower than the angels"

"Only the human part was made a little lower than the angels."

"The humanity of Jesus Christ was "a little lower than the angels"

"Little lower than the angels" refers to mankind in general and Jesus in His Human nature"

"The part here about being made a little lower than the angels refers to the human nature of Christ."

"When Jesus was born, He was 100% God and 100% man. When God sent Jesus in the human form, He was made a little lower than the angels. He was still 100% God. Only the human part was made a little lower than the angels."

Wrong: Jesus was not both higher and lower than the angels at the same time.

Jesus was only one person and all of that one person was lower than the angels.

This is just another example of how the two-natures doctrine splits Jesus into two persons....the divine Jesus who was above the angels and the human Jesus who was lower than the angels.

Sorry, but we do not have two parts of Jesus who do different things from each other.

When the scriptures teach that Jesus was lower than the angels, it means all of Jesus and not just part of him.

The whole Jesus was lower than the angels and not the "human" nature of Jesus who also had a "God" nature that was higher than the angels.

All of Jesus was lower than the angels:

Heb 2:7- Thou madest him a little lower than the angels;..

Heb 2:9- But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,..

Ps 8:5- For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels,...

Over and over again we see the trinitarians splitting Jesus into two persons

.1. We have the Jesus who died on the cross and the Jesus who didn't die on the cross.

2. We have the Jesus who was equal with the Father and the Jesus who wasn't equal with the Father.

3. We have the Jesus who was created and the Jesus who wasn't created.

4. We have the Jesus who was tempted and the Jesus who wasn't tempted.

5. We have the Jesus who was lower than the angels and the Jesus who was higher than the angels.

6. We have the Jesus who doesn't know the time of his return and the Jesus who does know the time of his return.

7. We have the Jesus who was resurrected and the Jesus who wasn't resurrected.

8. We have the Jesus who is God and the Jesus who has a God.

9. We have the Jesus who is omnipotent and the Jesus who needed to be given power.

10. We have the Jesus who was all-knowing and the Jesus who has limited knowledge.

11. We have the Jesus who is the mediator and the Jesus who is not the mediator.

12. We have the Jesus who was anointed and the Jesus who was not anointed.

13. We have the Jesus who is visible and the Jesus who is invisible.

14. We have the Jesus who is the Son of God and the Jesus who is God.

15. We have the Jesus who prayed and the Jesus who did not pray.

16. We have the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a beginning.

17. We have the Jesus with a human mind and the Jesus with a divine mind.

18. We have the Jesus who is named Jesus and the Jesus who is named Jehovah.

19. We have the Jesus who ascended and the Jesus who did not ascend.

20. We have the Jesus who is part of the trinity and the Jesus who is not part of the trinity.

The "two-natures of Christ" doctrine is in reality the "two-persons of Christ" doctrine.

Jesus did not have two-natures, but he was made like unto his brethren in all things.

Heb 2:16-17 to 3:3- For verily HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS; but he took on him the seed of abraham. Wherefore in ALL THINGS it behoved him to be MADE (created) like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconcilliation for the sins of the people.....For this MAN was counted worthy of more glory than Moses,...

Heb 2:16 clearly teaches that Jesus did not have a heavenly nature.

Jesus made reconcilliation for sins as a MAN without a heavenly nature.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,......

The scriptures teach that Jesus was a man and not a "God-man."

John 8:40- But now ye seek to kill me, A MAN that hath told you the truth,...

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

John 15:24- If I had not done among them the works which none other MAN did,....

Acts 17:31- God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained;...

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God.....

The above scripture verses are talking about the whole Jesus and not just part of him.

All of Jesus was a man.

Jesus was not a man who also had a God part. That is a false teaching.

Jesus was MADE (created) lower than the angels:

Ps 8:5- For thou hast MADE (created) him a little lower than the angels,...

Heb 2:7- Thou MADEST (created) him a little lower than the angels

Heb 2:9- But we see Jesus, who was MADE (created) a little lower than the angels

Heb 2:16-17 to 3:3- For verily HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS; but he took on him the seed of abraham. Wherefore IN ALL THINGS it behoved him to be MADE (created) like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconcilliation for the sins of the people.....

Make: To cause to exist...:To create;...

Jesus was made (created-begotten) by the Father:

John 1:14-And the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (And we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN (created) of the Father,)...

John 3:16- For God (the Father) so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN (created) son,.....

1John 4:9- In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God (the Father) sent his only BEGOTTEN (created) son into the world,...

John 1:18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only BEGOTTEN (created) Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:18- because he hath not believed in the name of the only BEGOTTEN (created) Son of God.

John 16:28- I came forth FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world:..

John 8:42- If God were you FATHER, ye would love me: for I proceedeth forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Jesus was lower than the angels because he was a man only. He was like us in all things, which means that he was not a "God-man."

If Jesus had two natures, then Jesus was not like us in all things, which would make heb 2:17 a lie.

Heb 2:17 is not a lie. Jesus was like us in all things. We do not have two natures and neither did Jesus have two natures.

The "God Or Lunatic" Scenario

The trinitarians teach that Jesus claimed to be God so if he is not God, then he is a lunatic for claiming to be God.

Trinitarian quotes

"Therefore, since Jesus claimed to be God, his claims are either true or false. If false, he must have been a liar, deliberately misleading the multitudes. Or, he was a lunatic,..."

"Jesus claimed to be God, so if he's not God then he lied and deceived people. If he's not God, we have to conclude he's a deliberate liar and deceiver, or perhaps a lunatic"

"Either Jesus was exactly who he claimed to be, God in the flesh, or he was the world's greatest lunatic or con artist."

"Jesus left only three options when he claimed to be God. These options are that he was a liar, a lunatic or God as he claimed."

"Either he's a liar, a lunatic, or truly God as he claimed to be."

"There are only four options for the identity of Jesus Christ. He was either a legend, a liar, a lunatic or Lord and God."

"If Jesus Christ is not God, then he is a blasphemer- He is an imposter and he is a liar! If he is not God then he certainly is not good, but he was either a liar or a lunatic."

"If Jesus believed he was God but he wasn't, then he was a lunatic."

"Is Jesus God? - There are really only three legitimate alternatives for the identity of Jesus Christ. He is either a liar, lunatic or God."

"Jesus is either God or a raving lunatic"

WRONG- Jesus is not a raving lunatic if he is not God. That is such a ridiculous thing to teach.

The trinitarians have created a false scenario about Jesus.

The "God or lunatic" scenario hinges on Jesus claiming to be God.

Jesus never claimed to be God so the "God or lunatic" scenario is based on a false premise.

Jesus claimed to be the Son of God and not God:

John 10:36- Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON OF GOD?

Jesus was called the Son of God before he was even born.

Luke 1:35- the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD.

Jesus is the SON OF GOD, which means that he is not God:

John 20:31- But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF GOD.

1John 5:5- Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the SON OF GOD.

Mark 1:1- The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the SON OF GOD.

John 1:34- And I saw, and bare record that this is the SON OF GOD.

Acts 9:20- And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the SON OF GOD.

Acts 8:37- And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the SON OF GOD.

Luke 1:35- the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD.

Quotes

"Did Jesus Christ ever claim he was God? One of the favorite modern arguments for the doctrine of the Trinity is that Jesus Christ claimed to be God, and that because of this, we must judge him to be either to be a liar, or insane, or speaking the truth. This argument appears airtight. But before we make our judgment, perhaps we'd better take a look at the evidence. In John 17:3, while praying to his Father, Jesus made reference to Him as "the only true God." John 17:3.
17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
In this verse Jesus Christ not only distinguished himself from God; he identified his Father as the only true God, thus effectively denying the divinity of the "third person of the Trinity" as well. Any assertion that Jesus claimed he was God must deal with scriptures such as this in which he seems to say just the opposite in no uncertain terms."

"Where and when did Jesus claim to be God? The next time you hear this assertion, ask the person who made it for the chapter and verse where Jesus did it; then look it up and read it for yourself. You will find, as I did, that not once did Jesus make such a claim. These assertions are based on our reading into Jesus' otherwise innocent words our own Trinitarian beliefs."

"claiming to be the Son of God does not constitute claiming to be God."

John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
"That's it? On the basis of this one cryptic statement, "Before Abraham was, I am," we claim that Jesus Christ claimed to be Almighty God? An assertion of this magnitude would require something much clearer than this. It would also require a detailed explanation at the same time, because any assertion by Christ that he was God without an explanation of the doctrine of the Trinity would simply be the introduction of a second god. But that's not what's happening here. There is no hint here of any intent on Jesus' part to declare himself to be God. We have simply interpreted his words to suit our purposes."

"Did Jesus Christ claim to be God? Let's make sure we can clearly and unambiguously show from the scriptures that Jesus Christ not only said words that could be interpreted as meaning he was God, but actually intended to make such a declaration. To the best of my knowledge, there is no place in scripture where Jesus Christ said he was God."

"If we say that Christ said he was God, when he did not, we make ourselves false witnesses of God."

The Incarnation Theory

The incarnation is an invention of men

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"The doctrine of the Incarnation of Christ is the belief that the second person in the Godhead, also known as the Son or the Logos (Word), "became flesh" when he was miraculously conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary. In the Incarnation, the divine nature of the Son was united with human nature in one divine Person Jesus Christ, who was both "truly God and truly man".

The Trinitarians teach that God became a man.

Trinitarian quotes

"God became a man"

"The omnipotent, in one instant, became flesh and blood"

"God became flesh"

"God was incarnated into a man"

"God became the God-man"

WRONG- God did not become a "God-man."

Numbers 23:19 - "God is not a man, that He should lie;

Hosea 11:9- I am God and not man.

Job 33:12- Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man.

The Incarnation is a false teaching. Jesus was not incarnated into a "God-man."

The incarnation theory hinges on Jesus pre-existing as God before he was conceived in Mary's womb.

If Jesus is not God, then it is obvious that he did not pre-exist, which means that the incarnation could not have happened.

The Father alone is God, which means that Jesus is not God, which means that Jesus did not pre-exist, which means that Jesus was not incarnated.

The Father Is the ONE God:

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,..

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,..

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Mark 10:18- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Luke 18:19- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? none is good, save ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Matt 19:17- Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...

The Father is greater than all:

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,...

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

Isaiah 40:25- To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.

Isaiah 46:5- To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?

1Cor 3:23- Christ belongs to God.

1Cor 11:3- the head of Christ is God.

The Father is the God of Jesus:

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Col 1:3- We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,..

2Cor 1:3- Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and THE GOD of all comfort;...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

1Pet 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Jesus has a God, which means that he is not God.

Jesus was not incarnated into a being that is God but also has a God. That is ridiculous.

There is only ONE Jesus and all of the ONE Jesus has a God.

The incarnation theory hinges on two things:

1. Jesus has to be God

2. Jesus had to be alive before his conception

Jesus is not God and he was not alive before he was conceived, so the whole incarnation teaching is based on falsehoods.

Jesus came into being when he was conceived (created) by the Father in Mary's womb. That is what the scriptures teach.

Take a look at the verses below, for they tell the true story of how Jesus came into being.

The Father, who is the Holy Spirit, came upon Mary and conceived Jesus in her womb.

Luke 1:35- And the angel answered and said unto her, the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt CONCEIVE in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Christ was on this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit (the Father).

Matthew 1:20- fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is CONCEIVED in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Isa 7:14- Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; behold, a virgin shall CONCEIVE, and bear a son,....

Gal 4:4- But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman,...

Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb and not "incarnated" into Mary's womb.

It was the Holy Spirit (the Father) who came upon Mary and conceived (created) Jesus in her womb.

Jesus was begotten (created) by the Father

John 1:14- and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,..

John 1:18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father,..

.John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,...

1John 4:9- God sent his only begotten Son into the world,....

John 16:28- I came forth FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world:..

John 8:42- If God were you FATHER, ye would love me: for I proceedeth forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

"Conceived" means to be brought into existence.

Conceive- To become pregnant with (young) To cause to begin: Originate

Originate- Begin; To give an origin or beginning to; produce as new. To have origin; begin to exist

Origin- The first existence or beginning; birth

Begin- To come into existence

Conception- The state of being conceived: Beginning

Creation- The act of creating or causing to exist.

Not only is the incarnation an unscriptural doctrine, but it splits Jesus into two persons......the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a beginning.

The trinitarians teach that one part of Jesus existed before the other part, which is crazy theology.

Jesus is only ONE person. He could not have existed and not existed at the same time.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus had no beginning and they also teach that Jesus did have a beginning.

1. The trinitarians teach that Jesus had no beginning:

Trinitarian quotes

"Jesus has no beginning"

"Jesus has always existed"

"Jesus is eternal and uncreated"

"Jesus is also, without beginning!"

2. The trinitarians teach that Jesus had a beginning:

Trinitarian quotes

"The Spirit of Jesus existed from all eternity because He is God Himself. However, the humanity of Jesus did not exist before the Incarnation, except as a plan in the mind of God."

"Jesus the man was born on earth and had a beginning."

"Jesus in His Humanity definitely did not pre-exist"

"As a man, Jesus had a beginning."

"Jesus is both human and divine, and it is the divine side of his nature that pre-existed before Jesus' birth."

"Christs human nature was born by Mary, but his divine nature always existed"

"the human nature of Christ did not exist before the conception in Mary"

"....For example, Jesus says in John 8:58, "...before Abraham was born, I am." Now, Christ's human nature did not exist before Abraham. It is Christ's divine nature that eternally exists before Abraham"

"He was eternal according to His divine nature, yet His human nature came into existence."

"His human nature WAS CREATED; it did not even possess the angelic powers. It was human, identical with our own."

"That Jesus had two natures one CREATED and one eternal."

"Christ is the uncreated-CREATED Being"

"Jesus was both man and God, both CREATED and uncreated,"

"Jesus is the only being in existence who is both CREATED and uncreated"

"The union of the CREATED and the Uncreated."

Wrong: Jesus did not both have a beginning and not have a beginning.

Jesus would be two persons if that scenario were true. One person cannot both have a beginning and not have a beginning.

We do not have two Jesus'......the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a beginning.

We have only one Jesus and the one Jesus came into existence when he was begotten (created) by the Father in Mary's womb.

Luke 1:34-35- Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, the Holy Spirit (the Father) shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

Matt 1:18- Now the birth of Christ was on this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit (the Father).

Matt 1:20- that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit (the Father).

John 1:14- and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,..

John 1:18- No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father,...

John 16:28- I came forth FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world:..

John 8:42- If God were you FATHER, ye would love me: for I proceedeth forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

The incarnation theory teaches a false Jesus.

Jesus was not alive before his conception, nor did he incarnate himself into a "God-man."

Jesus came into existence when he was conceived in Mary's womb.

Luke 1:34-35- Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, the Holy Spirit (the Father) shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:31- And, behold, thou shalt conceive in the womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

The truth is so simple: Jesus came into existence when he was conceived and he was only one person (man).

The trinitarians have taken that simple truth and have twisted it in to a convoluted "great mystery" that no one can explain or understand.

Trinitarian quotes

"The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine that we are incapable of fully understanding."

"This is the great mystery, referred to as the Incarnation,"

"The incarnation is a mystery that theologians and philosophers have pondered for millennia."

"The Incarnation is a mystery, since while you can believe that God became man, you can't comprehend the profound unity between the divine and human natures."

"THE INCARNATION is a mystery that surpasses human understanding."

"The mystery of the Incarnation cannot be explained."

"We call it the mystery of the Incarnation, or God taking on human flesh. It is a mystery, because the truth of the incarnation cannot be explained"

"we cannot explain the mystery of the Incarnation,"

"This union of two natures in one person is also a great mystery"

"The hypostatic union of a divine and human nature in the God-man is a deep mystery"

"Admittedly, it (the hypostatic union) is a great mystery"

"No one is able to understand how God became a man while still remaining God."

"It is a mystery how the two natures were in one person- the human nature and the divine. I cannot explain it, nor do I understand it"

THE TRINITY: DOCTRINE OF THE DEVIL

^{^{^{^{^{1 Timothy 4:1- Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter
times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils;...

The devil wants us to believe in the trinity, because it teaches a false God, which is idolatry.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{The devil knows that committing idolatry will get us thrown into the lake of fire.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{Rev 21:8- Idolaters shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:..}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{1Cor 6:9-10- Idolaters shall not inherit the kingdom of God.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{Satan is our enemy and he will do anything to destroy true christianity.

1 Peter 5:8- Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Matthew 13:39- The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Luke 8:12- Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the
devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should
believe and be saved.

Mark 4:15- And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown;
but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the
word that was sown in their hearts.

Matthew 13:19- When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and
understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one(Satan), and catcheth
away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed
by the way side.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{The trinity has to be one of the devil's greatest accomplishments. The
majority of professing christians believe in the trinity and the
trinity is even considered to be the "cornerstone" of christianity
(which it is not). Oh, how the devil must love that to have deceived so
many into believing a lie.

The devil is a liar and the father of all lies and he is the great deceiver.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{John 8:44- Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your
father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not
in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 12:7-9- And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought
against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed
not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great
dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and
his angels were cast out with him.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted you may well put up with it!}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{The devil wants to corrupt and destroy the way of truth (true christianity)
and supplant it with the way of idolatry (false christianity).

2Pet 2:1-2- there were false prophets also among the people, even as
there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in
damanable heresies,.......And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
by reason of whom THE WAY OF TRUTH (true christianity) shall be evil
spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make
merchandise of you:...}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{The way of truth that the Father alone is God is evil spoken of today.
People are labled as heretics and anti-christs if they believe the
truth that the Father alone is God. That is exactly what the devil
wants. He wants true doctrine to be reviled and rejected and he wants
false doctrines to be accepted and defended.}}}}}

^{^{^{^{^{Quotes

"Satan hates you. Understand that he hates your very existence. Your
life is a stench to him. He hates you because God loves you and you
have a promise of reconciliation with God. Satan has one objective and
one objective only: To steal, to kill, to destroy, and to bring as many
people down to hell with him as he possibly can."

"the devil is a great deceiver who desires the worship that belongs to
God alone. He delights in drawing people into false doctrine. The
people think they are serving God but they are serving the devil."

"Satan wants to lead people and move people away from the truth of God.
He wants to delude and deceive and trick. He wants to replace God's
doctrine with false doctrine. Instead of "SOUND (healthy) DOCTRINE" (1
Timothy 1:10; Titus 1:9; 2:1), he seeks to delude people into believing
poisonous doctrines (to their eternal harm). Satan is waging a never
ending war against the truth of God and the battle is taking place in
the minds of men and women."

"This battle for the minds of men affects every one of us. On what
ground are you standing? Are you standing on the truth of God or on the
delusions of Satan? BEWARE, lest you substitute the ideas and thoughts
and opinions of men for the truth of God. It is very easy to be led
astray. It is very easy to be deceived. It is very easy to let go of
the truth and start clinging to Satan's lies."

"Whom did the devil trick (beguile) in the garden long ago (2 Cor.
11:3)? He has been busy tricking people ever since. He has been very
successful! He has many workers (2 Cor. 11:13). He makes error look so
good and he makes darkness look so bright (2 Cor. 11:14). Satan's
ministers appear to be so righteous (2 Cor. 11:15). Some even have the
letters REV. before their name and they stand behind a pulpit every
Sunday morning and preach to people. There's only one problem. THEY
DON'T PREACH THE TRUTH!"

"The devil makes his doctrine appealing to man and many fall for his
lies. Junk food may be appealing and may taste good but most people
will not do very well if they eat nothing but candy and cake. The
devil's doctrines may be appealing but they are poisonous. Sound
healthy doctrine is found only in God's Word."

"In Galatians chapter 1 we learn how Satan successfully led people away
from the truth of God and Paul was amazed that it had happened so
quickly:"

"Throughout the New Testament God gives strong warnings to people about
the dangers of moving away from God's truth and being tricked into
believing Satan's delusions."

"You all know, don't you, that the devil never lets up on the
Christian. He is constantly working and striving and fighting and
plotting and scheming and devising and lying and killing and deceiving
and accusing and preaching to us and against us, all so that, in the
end, we would join him in hell. He doesn't want us to have life; he is
our enemy."

"What this means, dear Christians, is that the fieriest fight against
the devil, the fieriest fight in the Christian life is the fight for
truth, the fight against lies, the fight against false teachers and
their false theology. For if the devil can slip false teaching into the
heart of a Christian, a false trust in their own works, or a despair of
God's grace, then he has won that person and destroyed them."

"It amazes me that people who profess to read the bible so much can
miss one very important rule that is unchangeable in God's Word. This
rule is that all doctrines of faith are clearly, simply and concisely
stated . And the terms used for these doctrines are in scripture and
the doctrine is stated at least twice. No true doctrines of faith are
developed over time, but rather laid out in their entirety and plainly
...... It is said that satan's tricks are nothing new, but just old
tricks changed a little for the times. This is certainly true of
satan's favorite called idolatry. Satan always finds new and
provocative ways to re-package this idolatrous con to make these manure
beliefs palatable to unsuspecting believers who are gullible to satan's
endless suggestions. Unfortunately, these cons are foisted upon
believers who many times are sincerely trying to serve God better, but
are in-advertently sucked into one of satan's cons. As nice as you can
doll it up with makeup and fancy words, the trinity heresy is still
idolatry. Sure, satan has made idolatry believable to some being
packaged under the incomprehensible mystery, accept it by faith lie,
but how else to accomplish this insidious task? The common thread of
defeating the power of God in believer's lives has been idolatry. Look
at the Israelites and how often they were in trouble because of
idolatry. Satan doesn't invent new tricks, but rather renames,
repackages, and sells again the moldy and poisonous bread of his words
of death. The day of Pentecost was a day that filled satan with utter
contempt as he saw the beginning of his destruction. In desperation
satan had to foist his greatest cons of his life to do as much damage
as he could to God's plan. And this con was both to defeat the power of
God in the believer's lives, but also to make them look as foolish as
possible. This was accomplished by getting Christians to make a pagan
deity and start the idolatry ball rolling by making this false idol out
of God and His son themselves. And by saying it is a mystery or it has
always been or whatever other manure you want to swallow, the simple
fact however is that you have more than one god no matter how you want
to explain it. And satan laughs at believers stupidity at being so
easily conned again, and this time it is especially sweet because satan
has caused Christians to make their new idol out of their redeemer,
Jesus Christ. God must be very sad that we were so easily fooled
again."}}}}}

"The Bible describes Satan as "the most subtle of all creatures". He is the arch-deceiver and the original liar. His evil machinations have misled billions into a perception of him that completely clouds his real intentions. And this he doesn't mind, for behind his smoke-screen of deception he blinds mankind to the truth (II Corinthians 4:4) and forwards his evil design. Elsewhere we're told by the apostle Paul that even Christians would "give heed to ... doctrines of demons" (I Timothy 4:2).

"Unfortunately, not every thing that sounds Christian is sound Christian doctrine. The devil has slipped false teaching and misunderstandings into the Church. The devil, being as slick as he is, counterfeits the truth in order to promote false teachings within the Church under the guise of Christianity to deceive the minds of men. Satan has his own pseudo-Christianity. This false Christian religious system comes in many shapes and shades, each having its own Bibles, Preachers, and Churches."

"The devil is a very subtle and crafty liar, and will minutely misstate the Holy Word of God in order to slightly misdirect you. The end result of the uncorrected misdirection will always be hell."

"Satan is very real and he is very powerful. He seeks to deceive, side track us, disillusion, destroy and confuse us. He wants to keep us from the truth. He is ruthless, will use any means."

"Satan is a con artist. He wants to rip you off, cheating you out of everything that is rightfully yours. He's the enemy of everything good, hating you with all his filthy fury. He offers the soft, warm bomb that will explode your life into a million pieces. He generously gives momentary relief and fun that leads to deeper bondage and torment; the short cut to heaven's ecstasy that ends in hell."

"the Devil is the deceiver, he was a deceiver back then, and he is a deceiver to this day. He still continues to speak lies into the world and He attempts to get the Children of God to believe His lies."

"We know that the devil is a liar. We know that he lives just to hate and destroy. He will stop at nothing to trip up Christians and keep unbelievers from seeing the truth."

"the devil relentlessly attacks the truth with his lies (Jn 8:44)"

"If you are a member of the body of Christ, get ready to face a mad devil. You may not want to think about it or even accept it - but if you have determined to follow Jesus with all your heart, Satan has marked you for destruction. And he's going to flood your life with troubles of all kinds."

"First of all, we must remember that the devil is subtle. The devil lures people in with partial truths and then gives them lies. First, trust is gained with saying the truth, then the setup of lies and falsehood begins. That is how the devil operates."

"Satan has ministers who preach from the word of God in the pulpits every Sunday. They sound really good to the unsuspecting. They have and share many doctrinal truths that are found in Scripture, but there is always a catch. They are subtly preaching another Jesus and another gospel. The apostle Paul warns us concerning this:

2Cor 11:4 "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted..."

2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

There are so-called "christians" who sit in pews every Sunday. Some are demon possessed. They claim to hear from God. They sit as tares among the wheat. They gossip and they sow discord among brethren, and all the while appear so spiritual. The devil does not sit in your church with horns and a pitchfork. I can assure you of this. He is subtle. He wants to destroy. He comes as an angel of light...very spiritual...very pious."

"The devil loves to change the word of God and the truth of that word into a lie"

"Do not assume that just because someone quotes Scripture they are right. Satan is the master Scripture twister."

"Satan gets men to believe what he wants them to believe by blinding their minds to the truth of God's word."

Bearing False Witness about Jesus

It is vital to know that Jesus is not God, because it is bearing false witness to say that he is God.

Jesus said that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is greater than he and that the Father is his God.

John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Mark 15:34- My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

How much clearer can Jesus be that he is not God?

To say that Jesus is God is to bear false witness about him.

It is my sincere prayer that all people will come to the truth that the Father alone is God.

The truth is a precious thing that we should cleave unto with all of our heart.

Ps 119:30- I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.

Prov 23:23- Buy the truth, and sell it not;

1John 2:21- no lie is of the truth

John 8:32- the truth shall make you free.

2cor 13:8- For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

The truth is very clear in the scriptures that the Father is the one God.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but one God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,..

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

To say that Jesus is God is to bear false witness about him, because he is not God. The Father alone is God.

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"If we say that Christ said he was God, when he did not, we make ourselves false witnesses of God."

One of the ten commandments is to not bear false witness:

Deut 5:20- Thou shalt not bear false witness

Rom 13:9- Thou shalt not bear false witness,..

Mark 10:19- Do not bear false witness,..

We are supposed to contend for the true faith and not contend for a false gospel.

Jude 3- Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

It is imperative to know that the Father alone is God, for how can we contend for the truth if we do not know the truth?

What good is witnessing if you are witnessing a false gospel (trinitarianism)? All you are doing is leading people astray from the truth into idolatry.

Jesus railed against the pharisees for false proselytizing (false witnessing):

Matt 23:15- Woe unto you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one convert, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

TWO-NATURES DOCTRINE AND NESTORIANISM

Nestorious was condemned for teaching that the "human" Jesus died on the cross but the "divine" Jesus did not, yet the trinitarians teach the very same thing.


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"Nestorianism is the doctrine that Jesus exists as two persons, the man Jesus and the divine Son of God, or Logos, rather than as a unified person. This doctrine is identified with Nestorius (c. 386c. 451), Archbishop of Constantinople. This view of Christ was condemned at the Council of Ephesus in 431, and the conflict over this view led to the Nestorian schism, separating the Assyrian Church of the East from the Byzantine Church...........Nestorianism originated in the Church in the 5th century out of an attempt to rationally explain and understand the incarnation of the divine Logos, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity as the man Jesus Christ. Nestorianism taught that the human and divine essences of Christ are separate and that there are two persons, the man Jesus Christ and the divine Logos, which dwelt in the man. In consequence, Nestorians rejected such terminology as "God suffered" or "God was crucified", because the humanity of Jesus Christ which suffered is separate from his divinity. Likewise, they rejected the term Theotokos (Giver of birth to God/Mother of God) as a title of the Virgin Mary, suggesting instead the title Christotokos (Giver of birth to Christ/Mother of Christ), because in their view Mary gave birth to only the human person of Jesus and not the divine..............Nestorius (c. 386c. 451) was a pupil of Theodore of Mopsuestia in Antioch in Syria (modern Turkey) and later became Archbishop of Constantinople. He taught that the human and divine aspects of Christ were distinct natures, not unified. He preached against the use of the title Mother of God (Theotokos) for the Virgin Mary and would only call her Mother of Christ (Christotokos). He also argued that God could not suffer on the cross, as he is omnipotent. Therefore, the human part of Christ died on the cross, but not the divine....................His opponents accused him of dividing Christ into two persons: they claimed that proposing that God the Word did not suffer and die on the cross, while Jesus the man did, or that God the Word was omniscient, while Jesus the man had limited knowledge, implied two separate persons with separate experiences.

Nestorius taught that the "human" part of Jesus died on the cross, but not the "divine" part and that one part of Jesus was omniscient but the other part had limited knowledge. Do those teachings sound familiar to you? They should, because the trinitarians teach the very same thing.

The trinitarians teach that the "human" part of Jesus died, but the "divine" part of Jesus did not die, just like nestorius taught.

Trinitarian quotes

"The human Jesus died, but the divine Jesus did not."

"Only the human person of Jesus, not the divine person of Jesus, died on the cross"

"Jesus had a human body because He has a human nature and it was in His body that our sins were placed."

"Obviously, Jesus, the man with His human nature was offered upon the cross."

"As Jesus hung on the cross He was, in His human nature, the true sin-offering for His people, and as such, it was necessary that He suffer alone. God can have no association whatever with sin,"

"It was IN HIS HUMANITY that Jesus took on our sin and by dying atoned for it."

"The Bible never says that God died. It was the MAN Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all."

"Jesus truly saved us by deeds performed in his human nature"

"He went to the cross as a MAN to pay for our sins."

"Jesus had a human body because He has a human nature and it was in His body that our sins were placed."

"The bible never says that God died. It was the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all."

"It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But we see that Jesus has two natures, not one. It was THE HUMAN PART of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine."

" In the sacrifice of Jesus, we have Jesus dying. But, did the divine nature of Christ also die? No it did not since God cannot die."

"Christ suffered and died in his human nature"

So, according to the trinitarians, the "human" Jesus died on the cross, but the "divine" Jesus did not die on the cross.......Sorry, but that is nestorianism.

Why do the trinitarians teach that human part of Jesus died but not the divine part?

Well, they have no choice. The only other position that they could take is to teach that the divine nature also died, which means that they would be teaching that God died, which is impossible since God is immortal and cannot die.

1Tim 1:17- Now unto the king eternal, IMMORTAL, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

There are only two positions that the trinitarians can take on this issue and both positions are wrong.

If they teach that the human nature died but not the divine nature, then they have split Jesus into two persons just like nestorianism, and if they teach that both the human nature and the divine nature died, then they are teaching that God died, which is heretical because God is immortal and cannot die.

Both of those positions make no sense. Jesus was not a "God-man" who died on the cross only in his "human" nature and Jesus certainly did not die as God on the cross.

There is another position to take which is the correct position that Jesus does not have a "divine" part, but was born as a man only and he died on the cross as a man only. Now that makes sense!

The scriptures teach that Jesus died on the cross as a man only.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

The teaching that Jesus died on the cross as a man only is backed up by the scriptures.

The teaching that Jesus had two natures (God-man) and died only in his "human" nature is not backed up by the scriptures.

The truth is so simple and uncomplicated...We have only ONE Jesus...the man Christ Jesus who took our sins upon himself!

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

1Tim 2:5-6- For there is one God(the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,...

Phil 2:8- And being found in fashion as a MAN, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the Cross.

Jesus had no existence prior to his conception in Mary's womb. He did not have a "divine" side to him that lived before his "human" side was conceived and born.

One person cannot exist before he is even conceived and born, so it is obvious that the trinitarians have split Jesus into two persons.

The trinitarians say that they teach that Jesus is two natures and not two persons, but their "two-natures" act just like "two persons."

Think about it.....the "divine" Jesus always existed but the "human" Jesus was created in Mary's womb ....does that sound like the trinitarians are teaching that Jesus is one person to you?

Trinitarian quotes

"Christ's divine nature is eternal, His human nature began in Mary's womb"

"He was eternal according to His divine nature, yet His human nature came into existence."

"Human nature came into being"

"The Spirit of Jesus existed from all eternity because He is God Himself. However, the humanity of Jesus did not exist before the Incarnation, except as a plan in the mind of God."

"Jesus the man was born on earth and had a beginning."

"Jesus in His Humanity definitely did not pre-exist"

"As a man, Jesus had a beginning."

"Jesus is both human and divine, and it is the divine side of his nature that pre-existed before Jesus' birth."

"Christ s human nature was born by Mary, but his divine nature always existed"

"the human nature of Christ did not exist before the conception in Mary"

"....For example, Jesus says in John 8:58, "...before Abraham was born, I am." Now, Christ's human nature did not exist before Abraham. It is Christ's divine nature that eternally exists before Abraham"

"He was eternal according to His divine nature, yet His human nature came into existence."

"Christs human nature was born by Mary, but his divine nature always existed"

"His human nature WAS CREATED; it did not even possess the angelic powers. It was human, identical with our own."

"That Jesus had two natures   one CREATED and one eternal."

"Christ is the uncreated-CREATED Being"

"Jesus was both man and God, both CREATED and uncreated,"

"Jesus is the only being in existence who is both CREATED and uncreated"

So, according to the trinitarians, one part of Jesus existed before the other part of Jesus.

The trinitarians have the "divine" Jesus living a life before the "human" Jesus was conceived in mary's womb, which is craziness.

One person cannot both exist and not exist at the same time.

The trinitarians say that they do not teach that Jesus is two persons, yet they speak of Jesus like he is two persons. They teach over and over again that Jesus did this or that in his human nature but not in his divine nature.

1. We have the Jesus who died on the cross and the Jesus who didn't die on the cross.

2. We have the Jesus who was equal with the Father and the Jesus who wasn't equal with the Father.

3. We have the Jesus who was created and the Jesus who wasn't created.

4. We have the Jesus who was tempted and the Jesus who wasn't tempted.

5. We have the Jesus who was lower than the angels and the Jesus who was higher than the angels.

6. We have the Jesus who doesn't know the time of his return and the Jesus who does know the time of his return.

7. We have the Jesus who was resurrected and the Jesus who wasn't resurrected.

8. We have the Jesus who is God and the Jesus who has a God.

9. We have the Jesus who is omnipotent and the Jesus who needed to be given power.

10. We have the Jesus who was all-knowing and the Jesus who has limited knowledge.

11. We have the Jesus who is the mediator and the Jesus who is not the mediator.

12. We have the Jesus who was anointed and the Jesus who was not anointed.

13. We have the Jesus who is visible and the Jesus who is invisible.

14. We have the Jesus who is the Son of God and the Jesus who is God.

15. We have the Jesus who prayed and the Jesus who did not pray.

16. We have the Jesus who always existed and the Jesus who had a beginning.

17. We have the Jesus with a human mind and the Jesus with a divine mind.

18. We have the Jesus who is named Jesus and the Jesus who is named Jehovah.

19. We have the Jesus who ascended and the Jesus who did not ascend.

20. We have the Jesus who is part of the trinity and the Jesus who is not part of the trinity.

ANOTHER JESUS

The two-natures doctrine teaches another Jesus than the Jesus that the Apostle Paul taught.

2Cor 11:3-4- But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER (false) JESUS, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

The "God-man" Jesus taught by the trinitarians is not the Jesus that the apostle paul taught.

The apostle Paul did not preach that Jesus was a "God-man," but he preached that the Father was the ONE God and that the Father was the God of Jesus.

The apostle Paul taught that the Father is the God of Jesus, which shows very clearly that Paul did not believe or teach that Jesus is God.

Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Col 1:3- We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,..

2Cor 1:3- Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and THE GOD of all comfort;...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

The Apostle Paul taught that Jesus was a MAN and not a "God-man."

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;...

Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion AS A MAN,....

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;...

1Cor 15:21- For since by man came death, by MAN came also the resurrection of the dead.

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

The Apostle Paul taught that the Father alone is God:

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but one God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- One God and Father of all, who is above all,..

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

The Deity of Christ is a false teaching

The trinitarians teach that Jesus was divine, but the truth is that Jesus was a god-bearing man.

Jesus was not divine, but divinity dwelt IN him

The Father, who is the Holy Spirit, dwelt IN Jesus.

John 14:10- but the Father that dwelleth IN me, he doeth the works.

Col 2:9- For IN him dwelleth all the fullness...

2Cor 5:19- To wit, that God (the Father) was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,...

The Father is the holy spirit and he dwells IN us.

1Cor 6:19- know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (the Father), which is IN you, which ye have of God,...

1Cor 3:16- Know ye not that ye are the temple of God (the Father), and that the Spirit of God (the Father) dwelleth IN you?

Eph 4:6- One God and FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN you all,...

2Cor 6:16-18- for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell IN them, and walk IN them;..... And will be A FATHER unto you,.....

THE FATHER ALONE IS ALPHA & OMEGA

The Alpha & Omega sits upon the throne:

Rev 21:5-6- And HE THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE said, behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, It is done. I am ALPHA AND OMEGA, the beginning and the end.

There is only ONE who sits upon the throne and that ONE is the Father

Rev 4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,...

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;...

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

Mark 10:18- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Luke 18:19- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? none is good, save ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Matt 19:17- Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Jesus does not sit upon the throne, which means that he cannot be the Alpha & Omega.

Jesus sits at the right hand of the throne of God:

Heb 12:2- Jesus is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Heb 8:1- We have such an High priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens.

Mark 16:19- Jesus was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Luke 22:69- Hearafter shall the son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Acts 7:55- But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God.

Col 3:1- Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Heb 1:3- when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high;..

Acts 2:33- Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of THE FATHER the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this,...

Heb 10:12- But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God.

Eph 1:20- Which he (the Father) wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and SET HIM AT HIS OWN RIGHT HAND in the heavenly places,..

Jesus approached the throne and took the book out of the hand of the alpha & omega

Rev 5:7- And he (Jesus) came and took the book out of the right hand of him (alpha & omega) that sat upon the throne.

Rev 21:5-6- And he that sat upon the throne said, behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, It is done. I am ALPHA AND OMEGA, the beginning and the end.

Rev 4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE (alpha & omega) sat on the throne.

Rev 5:7 is undeniable proof that Jesus is not the first (Alpha) and the last (Omega).

There is only ONE who sits upon the throne in heaven and Rev 5:7 shows very clearly that Jesus isn't the ONE who sits upon the throne.

More reasons why Jesus cannot be the alpha & omega

1. Can the alpha & omega be a created being? No.

Jesus was begotten (created) by the Father

John 1:14- And the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,)...

John 1:18- No man hath seen God(the Father) at any time; the only BEGOTTEN son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:16- For God(the Father) so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN son,...

Jesus is not the Alpha and Omega, but he is the only BEGOTTEN son of the Alpha and Omega, which is the Father.

2. Can the alpha & omega have a God? No.

The Father is the God of Jesus.

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

Eph 1:16-17- Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, cease not to give hanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom .....

Eph 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

Col 1:3- We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,..

2Cor 1:3- Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and THE GOD of all comfort;...

2Cor 11:31- The GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

1Pet 1:3- Blessed be THE GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ,...

3. Can the Apha and Omega have someone who is greater than He? No.

The Father is greater than Jesus.

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER THAN ALL;...

John 14:28- my Father IS GREATER THAN I.

4. Can the alpha and omega die? No.

Jesus died on the cross.

Matt 27:50- Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the spirit.

Luke 23:46- And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the spirit.

John 19:30- When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the spirit (died).

John 19:33-34- But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

God is immortal and cannot die

1Tim 1:17- Now unto the king eternal, IMMORTAL, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

5. Does the alpha & omega need to be given power? No.

Jesus said that he could do nothing of himself:

John 5:19- Verily, verily, I say unto you, the son can do nothing of himself,..

John 5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing:...

Jesus was given power by the Father:

Matt 28:18- And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME in heaven and in earth.

John 3:35- The Father loveth the Son, and hath GIVEN all things into his hand.

Matt 11:27- All things are DELIVERED UNTO ME OF MY FATHER:...

John 17:1-2- Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as thou hast GIVEN HIM POWER over all flesh,...

Matt 9:8- But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God (the Father), which had GIVEN SUCH POWER unto men (Jesus).

When Jesus raised the dead, healed the sick and performed miracles, it was not by his own power.

The Father that dwelt in Jesus did the works:

John 14:10- but the Father that dwelleth in me, HE DOETH THE WORKS.

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of nazareth, A MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, WHICH GOD (the Father) DID by him in the midst of you,....

What about rev 1:17-18?

Rev 1:17-18- And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

There is absoluely no doubt in my mind that Jesus never said that he was the "first and the last."

Something is amiss with rev 1:17-18, for it does not line up with the rest of the scriptures.

Jesus never claimed that he was God.

Jesus said that he is the Son Of God and that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is greater than he and that the Father is his God.

John 10:36- say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

Matt 27:43- He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he (Jesus) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD.

John 17:1-3- These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 14:28- my Father is GREATER than I.

John 10:29- My Father, which gave them me, is GREATER than all;...

John 20:17- Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.

Mark 15:34- My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Rev 3:12- Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD,...

Long after his resurrection and ascension, Jesus was described as a MAN who sits at the right hand of the throne and not as God ( the "first and the last") who sits upon the throne.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

1Tim 2:5- there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;...

Heb 7:24-25- But this MAN, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Phil 2:7-8- But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a MAN,....

Heb 12:2- Jesus is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Heb 8:1- We have such an High priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens.

Col 3:1- Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Eph 1:20- Which he (the Father) wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,..

The scriptures are clear that Jesus is a man and that he does not sit upon the throne of God.

Heb 10:12- But this MAN, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..

JESUS IS NOT OMNIPOTENT

The fact that Jesus had to be given power to forgive sins and to perform miracles shows that he cannot be God.

God is all-powerful and does not need to be given power.

Revelation 19:6- And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

The power that Jesus had to forgive sins and heal people was given to him by the Father:

Matthew 9:2-8- And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts? For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. And he arose, and departed to his house. But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified GOD (the Father), WHICH HAD GIVEN SUCH POWER unto men.

Matt 28:18- All power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 17:1-2- Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as thou hast GIVEN HIM POWER over all flesh,...

John 3:35- THE FATHER loveth the son, and hath GIVEN all things into his hand.

1Cor 15:27-28- For he (the Father) "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this DOES NOT INCLUDE GOD (the Father) HIMSELF, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made SUBJECT to him (the Father) who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

John 3:35- The Father loveth the Son, and hath GIVEN all things into his hand.

Phil 2:9-11- Wherefore God (the Father) also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN HIM A NAME which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God THE FATHER.

John 13:3- Jesus knowing that the Father had GIVEN all things into his hands,...

John 5:26-27- For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he GIVEN to the son to have life in himself; and hath GIVEN him authority to execute judgment also,...

Luke 1:32- He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall GIVE unto him the throne of his father David:...

Matt 11:27- All things are delivered unto me of my Father:...

Luke 10:22- All things are delivered to me of my Father:...

Eph 1:22- (the Father) hath put all things under his feet,....

Heb 2:8- Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.

John 17:7- Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me ARE OF THEE.

Jesus could do nothing of himself:

John 5:19- Verily, verily, I say unto you, the son can do nothing of himself,..

John 5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing:...

The Father, who is the Holy Spirit, dwelt in Jesus and did the works.

John 14:10- THE FATHER that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Acts 2:22- Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of nazareth, A MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, WHICH GOD (the Father) DID by him in the midst of you,....

How do the trinitarians explain how Jesus could be God, yet he could do nothing of himself and needed to be given power?

The trinitarians teach that Jesus has two natures (God-man) and that the "human" part of Jesus is not omnipotent, but the "divine" part of Jesus is omnipotent.

Trinitarian quotes

"In his human nature, Jesus was weak and tired (Matt. 4:2; 8:24; Mark 15:21; John 4:6), but in his divine nature he was omnipotent"

"His human nature was not omnipotent"

"Jesus as a human knew that His divine nature was omnipotent"

"God is omnipotent, yet adds to himself an impotent human nature"

"Jesus' human nature is not omnipotent."

"He was all powerful according to His divine nature,"

"Jesus was weak and at the same time He was omnipotent,"

"Jesus Christ is both finite and infinite, passible and impassible, impotent and omnipotent,....."

Wrong: Jesus does not have an omnipotent part to him.

We do not have two Jesus'....the Jesus who was omnipotent and the Jesus who needed to be given power.

We have only ONE Jesus and all of the ONE Jesus needed to be given power.

Matthew 9:2-8- And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts? For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. And he arose, and departed to his house. But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified GOD (the Father), WHICH HAD GIVEN SUCH POWER unto men.

Matt 28:18- All power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 17:1-2- Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as thou hast GIVEN HIM POWER over all flesh,...

The scriptures teach that Jesus was given power and not that the "human" part of Jesus was given power but not the "divine" part of Jesus.

We do not have the Jesus who was omnipotent and the Jesus who was not omnipotent. That is nestorianism.

Jesus is only ONE person and all of the ONE Jesus needed to be given power.

Jesus could do nothing of himself and needed to be given power, which is overwhelming proof that Jesus is not God.

God is omnipotent and does not need to be given power.

Revelation 19:6- And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

Psalm 62:11- God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

Jeremiah 32:17- Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:

1 Chronicles 29:11- Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

Psalm 147:5- Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

Nahum 1:3- The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

Jesus said that the power belongs to the Father

Jesus sits at the right hand of the power of God:

Luke 22:69- Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Matthew 26:64- Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 14:62- And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

GOD IS ALL KNOWING----JESUS IS NOT ALL KNOWING

Jesus doesn't know the time of his second coming.

The Father is the only one who knows the time of Jesus' return to the earth.

Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but THE FATHER.

Matt 24:36- But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

It is impossible that Jesus could be God and not know the time of his return, for God knows all things.

1John 3:20- God is greater than our heart, and KNOWETH ALL THINGS.

Psalm 147:5- Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

Jesus has limited knowledge, which means that he cannot be God.

Jesus increased in wisdom:

Luke 2:52- And Jesus increased IN WISDOM and stature, and in favour with God and man.

God is all-knowing:

1John 3:20- God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Psalm 147:5- Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

It is only THE FATHER who is all-knowing:

Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but THE FATHER.

Matt 24:35-36- Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

The reason that only the Father knows the time of Jesus' return is because only the Father is God.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all,...

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE God (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;...

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus has two natures and that the "human" part of Jesus was not all-knowing but the "divine" part of Jesus was all-knowing.

That teaching divides Jesus into two persons.....the Jesus who was omniscient and the Jesus who was not omniscient.

Trinitarian quotes

"in his human nature, Jesus' knowledge is limited to what he has learned as a man, while in his divine nature he is totally omniscient, knowing everything."

"although the divine nature was omniscient, the human was not. Christ's human nature had limited knowledge and grew in understanding"

"In regards to His human nature, Jesus did not have all knowledge."

"with respect to his human nature, he had limited knowledge"

"The human nature of Jesus did not always know everything the divine nature did."

"On the one hand, with respect to his human nature, he had limited knowledge (Mark 13:32; Luke 2:52). On the other hand, Jesus clearly knew all things"

"Of course in His divine nature He is omniscient and His knowledge"

"with respect to his human nature) Jesus did not know the time when he would return"

"Have you ever wondered how Jesus could say that He did not know the day or hour of His return (Matthew 24:36) even though He is omniscient (John 21:17). If Jesus is God, why didn't He know the day of His return? This is solved by our understanding that Christ is one Person with two natures. The answer is that in regards to His human nature, Jesus does not have all knowledge. Thus, in His human nature He really did not know the day or hour of His return. But in His divine nature, He does have all knowledge and thus in His divine nature He did know when He would return. ...Here comes the most fascinating part. Since the two natures are united in one Person, the fact that Christ's human nature didn't know when He would return means that the Person of Christ did not know when He would return. Thus, Jesus the Person could truly say, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone" (Matthew 24:36). At the same time, by virtue of His divine nature, we can also say that the Person of Christ did know when He would return. Knowledge and ignorance of the time of His return are both true of the Christ, but in different ways. In His human nature, the Person of Christ was ignorant of when He would return. In His divine nature, the Person of Christ did know when He would return. Thus, Christ Himself both knew and did not know when He would return."

"Jesus as a human knew that His divine nature was omnipotent and omniscient,"

"Jesus Christ is both finite and infinite, passible and impassible, impotent and omnipotent, ignorant and omniscient,"

"In his human nature, Jesus had limited human knowledge,"

"Jesus' human nature did not become all knowing"

WRONG: Jesus did not both know and not know the time of his return.

Jesus specifically said that he does not know the time of his return.

Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but THE FATHER.

Matt 24:36- But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

The trinitarians are teaching a falsehood about Jesus by saying that part of him knew the time of hs return.

Jesus made it very clear that he did not know the time of his return.

The trinitarians teach that Jesus knows the time of his return but doesn't know the time of his return at the same time. That is crazy theology.

How can ONE person both know and not know something?

We do not have two Jesus'...the all-knowing Jesus and the limited knowledge Jesus.

Jesus would be two persons if he had one part that knew everything and another part that didn't know everything. One person cannot be both omniscient and not omniscient.

We have only ONE Jesus and all of the ONE Jesus was not omniscient according to the scriptures.

Luke 2:52- And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but THE FATHER.

Matt 24:35-36- Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

The Father Is Lord Of Heaven And Earth

Luke 10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Matt 11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Deuteronomy 10:14- Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God (the Father), the earth also, with all that therein is.

Joshua 2:11- And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God (the Father), he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.

1 Kings 8:23- And he said, LORD God of Israel (the Father), there is no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath, who keepest covenant and mercy with thy servants that walk before thee with all their heart:

1 Chronicles 29:11- Thine, O LORD (the Father) is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

Isaiah 37:16- O LORD of hosts, God of Israel (the Father), that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

Deuteronomy 4:39- Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD (the Father) he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

The kingdom of heaven and earth is the Father's kingdom:

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is ABOVE ALL,..

1 Chronicles 29:11- Thine, O LORD (the Father) is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head ABOVE ALL

Matt 6:9-13- After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Luke 11:2- And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Psalm 103:19- The LORD (the Father) hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.

Matt 26:29- But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's Kingdom.

The Trinity Profanes The Name Of God

Leviticus 19:12- And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 36:23- And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Isaiah 48:11- For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

Isa 42:8- I am the Lord: that is my name: and MY GLORY WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER,...

The trinity profanes the name of God the Father by relegating him to being only part of God.

The trinitarians teach that the Father is just one part of God.

Trinitarian quotes

"God the Father, the first person of the Trinity"

"We affirm that the Father is the first person of the Trinity"

"Father" is the title of the first person of the trinity"

"the Father is not God alone"

"it is false to say, "God alone is Father,"

"God is not just one person, but He is three persons"

"The Father is the only true God. But He is not the only one who is the true God."

"The Father is not God as such, for God is not only Father, but also Son and Holy Spirit."

"God is made up of three parts. God is not just the Father."

WRONG: The Father is not just "part" of God, but he is all of God.

The trinity denies the Father of his rightful title of God alone.

The Father is God alone and he will not give his glory to another.

Isa 48:11- For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY UNTO ANOTHER.

Isa 42:8- I am the Lord: that is my name: and MY GLORY WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER,...

We have only ONE God and the Father is that ONE God

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

^{1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.}Psalm 86:10- For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...
^{Rev 4:2- And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and ONE sat on the throne.

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

Mark 10:18- And Jesus said unto him, why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, that is, God (the Father).

Luke 10:21-In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Matt 11:25- At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,...

Deuteronomy
4:39- Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the
LORD (the Father) he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth
beneath: there is none else.

There is no God beside the Father.

Isa 43:10- I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shalt there be after me.

Isa 44:6- beside me there is no God.

Isa 44:8- Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 45:5- I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me.

Isa 45:21- there is no God else beside me.

Deut 4:35- Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

Deut 4:39- Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD (the Father) he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Deut 32:39- See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:..

I Sam 2:2- There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

I Kings 8:60- That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

I Chron 17:20- O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

2 Samuel 7:22- Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God: for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.}

Loyalty to the One God

The Father demands that we worship only him as God. It is the first commandment.

Deut 5:9- Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God,..

Deut 5:7- Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Deut 11:16- Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other Gods, and worship them.

Psalm 81:9- There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.

To accept the trinity is to forsake God, for God is not a trinity. The Father is God alone.

The Father will forsake us if we forsake him

2 Chronicles 15:2- The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.

Ezra 8:22- The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him; but his power and his wrath is against all them that forsake him.

Joshua 24:16- And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake the LORD, to serve other gods;

The Apostasy is upon us

2Thess 2:3- Let no one in any way deceive you, for the day of the Lord will not come except there come a falling away first (the Apostasy), .....

I believe that we are now living in the time of the apostasy.

The way of truth that the Father alone is God is rejected by the vast majority of professing christians today.

People who reject the trinity and rightfully believe that the Father alone is God are labled as non-christians, heretics, cultists and blasphemers.

Trinitarian quotes

"the Trinity must be held in order to be a christian"

"if you have come to a settled conclusion that the doctrine of the Trinity is not true--you are not a christian at all. You are in fact a heretic."

"Anyone who knowingly fails to accept or intentionally rejects the doctrine of the Trinity cannot be saved."

"Whoever denies the Trinity is an unbeliever and a heretic"

WRONG: We do not have to believe in the trinity in to be saved. Nor are we heretics for believing the truth that the Father is the one God.

The scriptures teach that the Father is the ONE God.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Is it not total apostasy when people are condemned for believing the truth?

Love The Father

The Father alone is our great God and we are to love him with all of our heart and mind and soul and strength.

Deuteronomy 6:5- And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Deuteronomy 10:12- And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Mark 12:30- And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Luke 10:27- And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 22:37- Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

1 John 5:2- By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3- For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Deuteronomy 11:13- And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,

Deuteronomy 11:22- For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;

The Trinity Is An Inferred Doctrine

Inferred- to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: to guess; speculate; surmise. to hint; imply; suggest. to draw a conclusion, as by reasoning.

The trinitarians admit that the trinity is not openly taught in the scriptures, but is an inferred doctrine.

quotes

"The doctrine of the Trinity is not explicitly taught in the Scriptures or the writings of the ante-Nicene church Fathers. Trinitarians believe their doctrine is inferred in the Scriptures and known through their process of reason from analyzing certain statements found in the Scriptures."

"Theologians agree that the new testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity." (Vol 15 pg 54) Encyclopeia of religion

"The Trinity is not directly and immediately the word of God." (1967, Vol. XIV Pg 304) Catholic encyclopedia

"Search as you might, you will NOWHERE find the concept or doctrine of the "Trnity" delineated or discussed in the Bible. The apostles never heard of it. Jesus Christ never referrred to it. The apostle Paul not so much as mentioned it even once, in passing! It is simply not there. The word isn't there, and the concept of three divine Persons being "one God," "Three-in-One," each one being co-equal, and co-eternal, simply cannot be found stated or clearly implied in Scripture -- not from Genesis to Revelation!!!"

"Doesn't that sound strange, that such a cardinal "Christian" belief and tenet of modern Churchianity is NOWHERE taught in Scripture?"

"The dogma of the Trinity is an invention of mankind and the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA once wrote on the subject..."The propositions constituent of the Trinity were not drawn directly from the New Testament and could not be expressed in New Testament terms....they WERE PRODUCTS OF REASON, SPECULATING on a revelation to faith...they were only formed THROUGH CENTURIES OF EFFORT, only elaborated by the aid of conceptions formulated in the terms of GREEK AND ROMAN METAPHYSICS."

"Christ did not teach the trinity. Trinitarians cannot point to Him as the author of their belief. The Trinitarian scholars realize that you have to go outside of the Bible in order to find proof.

" The trinity doctrine is definitely not a requirement for true faith and is not actually taught by Jesus any of the Apostles. "

"The Trinity must be read into the Sacred Text, placed there by erogenous typology, or simply one must take the Scriptures out of context. The man-made Trinity Doctrine is not substantiated by the Holy Scriptures."

The trinity is not a biblical doctrine, but it has to be forced into the scriptures by taking verses out of context and by twisting the true meaning of certain words and by just inventing things from speculations and private interpretations.

There is no "God the Son" or "incarnation" or "two-natures" or "trinity of persons" or "third person" of a trinity .....those things are inventions and not biblical doctrines.

Our own personal opinions and conjectures of what we think the scriptures teach do not matter, for the scriptures are not open up to private interpretations. What matters is what the scriptures actually teach....that is what we must accept and adhere to.

The scriptures overtly teach that the Father is the One God. It is not some hidden obscure doctrine that no one can understand. The Father alone is God is taught very simply and strongly throughout the new testament.

The truth is right in front of us that the Father is the ONE God.....there is no need to try to re-arrange the scriptures to force the trinity into them.

1Cor 8:6- yet unto us is there but ONE God, which is the Father,...

Eph 4:6- ONE God and Father of all, who is above all,..

1Tim 2:5- For there is ONE GOD (the Father), and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Malachi 2:10- Have we not all ONE FATHER? hath not ONE GOD created us?....

Mark 12:29- Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:...

Psalm 86:10- For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (the Father) the ONLY true God,...

We must not get caught up in private interpretations. We should accept the scriptures at face value that the Father is the ONE God and not try to change and re-interpret the scriptures.

A prime example of private interpretation is John 1:1 and John 8:24 and John 8:58. These verses are being promoted as proof that Jesus is God, but those verses are being used out of context and are being twisted to a meaning that is not the true meaning of those verses.

Contend For the True faith

Jude 3- Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Trinitarianism is not the true faith. The Father alone is God is the true faith and we should earnestly contend for that truth and give the Father all of the glory and honor due his great name.

We should also contend against other false teachings that lead people astray from the true faith such as eternal security, original sin, baptismal regeneration, pre-trib rapture, calvinism, catholicism, mormonism, Jehovah witnesses, modalism, and so on...

Paul would not compromise the truth of the gospel and neither should we compromise the true gospel.

Gal 2:-5- Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain. But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised: And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Help contend for the truth that the Father alone is God

Witness openly to people that God is not a trinity so that they will know the truth and escape idolatry

Help call people unto the true Jesus...the Son of God and not "God the Son."

Wherever that you may live in the world, you can make a difference by standing up for the true faith.

Here is a flyer that you can print out and give to people: The Father Alone Is God Flyer

The Maryland Toleration Act

The Maryland Toleration Act (1649) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_Toleration_Act

The Maryland Toleration Act was a law instituted in colonial america which imposed the death penalty to anyone who denied the trinity.

Quotes

"Settlers who blasphemed by denying either the Trinity or the divinity of Jesus Christ could be punished by execution or the seizure of their lands. That meant that Jews, Unitarians, and other dissenters from trinitarian Christianity were practicing their religions at risk to their lives. Any person who insulted the Virgin Mary, the apostles, or the evangelists could be whipped, jailed, or fined. Otherwise, trinitarian Christians' right to worship was protected. The law outlawed the use of "heretic" and other religious insults against them.This attempt to limit the use of religious slurs and insults has been described as the first attempt in the world to limit the use of hate speech."

"Forasmuch as in a well governed and Christian Commonwealth, matters concerning Religion and the honour of God ought in the first place to be taken into serious consideration and endeavored to be settled, Be it therefore ordained and enacted by the Right Honourable Cecilius, Lord Baron of Baltimore, absolute Lord and Proprietary of this Province, with the advice and consent of this General Assembly that whatsoever person or persons within this province and the islands thereunto belonging, shall from henceforth blaspheme God, that is curse His, or shall deny Our Saviour Jesus Christ to be the Son of God, or shall deny the Holy Trinity, the Father, Son & Holy Ghost, or the Godhead of any of the said three persons of the Trinity, or the unity of the Godhead, or shall use or utter any reproachful speeches, words or language concerning the Holy Trinity, or any of the said three persons thereof, shall be punished with death, and confiscation or forfeiture of all his or her land and goods to the Lord Proprietary and his heirs."

"or that the same be not otherwise speedily satisfied, that then such offender or offenders shall be publicly whipped and be imprisoned"

What a farce it was to call this law a "toleration act.".....Where was the toleration for those who did not believe in the trinity?.....To reject the trinity meant the death penalty and confiscation or forfeiture of all land and goods and being publicly whipped and imprisoned !

The maryland toleration act was the "intolerant act" and not the "tolerant act." ....it was a one way toleration act for trinitarians only......non-trinitarians were excluded from any protection from intolerant people.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Maryland_Toleration_Act

The Appalling History Of The Trinity Doctrine

Bible Teachings

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New; Do Not Argue With False Teachers

The Church Made Without Hands

The Prophecy Page

Christianity Rejects The Trinity

Israel

The Merchandisers

The "God with us" Mis-interpretation

The Trinity Is a Stumblingblock To The Truth

Two Natures Doctrine and Nestorianism

The Incarnation Is A False Teaching

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